[Aust350z]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

Does anyone have any info on the final styling? Are they going to blend the rocker panels better than they do on the M235i Racing?

No info but they definitely will. I'll eat my deposit if they don't.

[Colinv6]

Agreed they are bound to.

I've actually seen an M235i racing somewhere online that had side skirts fitted and it was so much more finished.

I'll try and find the pics

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

Agreed they are bound to.

I've actually seen an M235i racing somewhere online that had side skirts fitted and it was so much more finished.

I'll try and find the pics

That'd be awesome if you can find them. I love the boxed out fender look of the E30 M3, and I think it'll look great on the F22 body, but the well-formed rocker panels on the E30 really make the boxed out look work.

[Wilson]

Don't know about the styling, but the size of the discs on the brakes are looking good. Not sure if the wheels are 18 or 19 inches, but the discs are certainly filling them nicely.

[UpNcOmINg!]

Those are the 18's from the f80/82.
Is indeed looking good.

Is that really a powerdome though? I'm not convinced....

[Colinv6]

It could be my eyes playing tricks through the camo but looking again at the Red/orange car in Spain could the front wings already be tapered into the skirts?

You can see the visible line clearly at the back below the quarter panel but the front now seems to fit nicely?

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

It could be my eyes playing tricks through the camo but looking again at the Red/orange car in Spain could the front wings already be tapered into the skirts?

You can see the visible line clearly at the back below the quarter panel but the front now seems to fit nicely?

It does look a bit like it. If you look at this shot of the M235i Racing, you can see that the massive overhang occurs at the rear of the front wheel arch. I can't discern that overhang in the referenced photo, but of course, the car is so heavily camouflaged, it's hard to say for sure.

Another thing to keep in mind is that BMW regularly place additional panels underneath the camo in order to obscure the actual body shape. That overhang in the back is definitely characteristic of the M235i Racing though. Maybe they're making incremental changes.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

I would like to see CF option on the M2.

And please make it at least 200 lbs lighter than the 1M, not like the porky M235i.

What does the 1M weigh? It's around 3400 pounds, right?

The US-spec M235 is heavier because of more standard equipment. I think the EU kerb weight is right in the 135's zone if you will.

Getting down to 3200 pounds is a fantasy, at least in my opinion. But we can hope.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Artemis

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Is that really a power dome, or is it a trick of the light/shadow on the hood?

I am not saying you're wrong - I just can't tell...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by UpNcOmINg!

Those are the 18's from the f80/82.
Is indeed looking good.

Is that really a powerdome though? I'm not convinced....

I think this car is really going to need 19's to look good - the 1M didn't necessarily need them because it was so boxy, but man did it look good.

The M235 already looks "dumpy" or "cheap" as some journalists have said with the stock 18's (I agree, I like the wheel design on my car, but they're too little). I hope it comes with two 19' choices - similar to the M3/4.

Silver 10 spokes as the standard and the black as an upgrade. But we will probably have to pay for 19's.

I agree on the powerdome - I really think it is a trick of the light in that shot...

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

What does the 1M weigh? It's around 3400 pounds, right?

The US-spec M235 is heavier because of more standard equipment. I think the EU kerb weight is right in the 135's zone if you will.

Getting down to 3200 pounds is a fantasy, at least in my opinion. But we can hope.

At least give us 150 pounds in weight reductions. We can easily find the 50 pounds else where on the car.

[W///]

I think there goes any shot at CF roof personally.

Car looks great in red though.

[mikeokimster]

For reference purposes:

2011 135i 6mt
http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/1-series/...tyle=101288166
3373 lbs curb

2011 1M 6mt
http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/1-series-...res-specs.html
3362 lbs curb

[Thurman Murch]

Why even buy the F80/2 when this is coming... I'd rather wait for this then compare with the g-series M4 especially if they go back to the V8

And then swap an S55 in if the T0 N55 doesn't met your needs

[AtlantaDude]

Those hips!!! yummm!!!!!

[W///]

Originally Posted by Thurman Murch

Why even buy the F80/2 when this is coming... I'd rather wait for this then compare with the g-series M4 especially if they go back to the V8

And then swap an S55 in if the T0 N55 doesn't met your needs

Plenty of reasons. Heck, I was waiting for M2, but now I'm getting less and less excited, but will still wait until end product before deciding, I got about 3 more years anyway.

Why M3/4 over M2:
- S55 > N55. Really has to be driven to appreciate it.
- Weight. I'm getting more and more convinced that there will NOT be a huge weight reduction vs M235i.

What the M2 will have going for it will be its size and price vs M3/4. Right now, I'm still leaning towards stripper-ish M3 (but I do have a small E36 for what it's worth, maybe that's why the M2 is losing my interest a little).

[Ritz42]

Originally Posted by W///

I think there goes any shot at CF roof personally.

Car looks great in red though.

What makes you say that? The car is well over a year away, and they just started with the front bumper. What if they work front to back? Or ground up?

[JunkStory]

Looks JDM.

[auf Deutsch]

N55 pushing 365-375 hp...aka PPK II or PPK plus

I'm not that enthused. I do like the N55/ppk in my 435 but, for a true M car I'm not sure this will suffice, that is unless the curb weight comes in at <3300 which the general consensus says ain't happening.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

At least give us 150 pounds in weight reductions. We can easily find the 50 pounds else where on the car.

I agree - I think the weight will tell us a lot about what BMW plans for this car and segment to be honest.

The problem is that 370 BHP in a M235-ish body that has wider tires, better brakes, better suspension AND 200 pounds less (aka 250 pound less than an M3/4) is going to be a handling maniac. Given BMW's positioning of higher series cars as "better" in performance terms....well I just am not convinced it will happen.

I hope I am wrong - but with the quoted power out there, I don't see them making it significantly lighter. I would have neem happier if the weight went down and the power was right around the 1M. Then you could have significantly different "styles" between the M2 and M3/4....

We shall see...

[Reedomn]

why the long piece of camo covering the "M2" badge on the trunk of the orange one?....or is it some other badge?..

[ATX78703]

I don't understand why it won't be released until late 2015-early 2016. It is essentially a homolgomation between an M235i and a M3/4. This thing should debut in January and be out by the summer.

Unless they're worried it will steal M4 sales... Ahh just found my answer..