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      01-12-2020, 02:04 PM   #23
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Did you get a look @ the VIN? Is it the same car as the one previewed in Brussels?
For me that would explain the M- perf rims... Not many people liked the gold ones (on MB).

"Let's try to sell them this way."
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Did you get a look @ the VIN? Is it the same car as the one previewed in Brussels?
For me that would explain the M- perf rims... Not many people liked the gold ones (on MB).
"Let's try to sell them this way."
Earlier today a petrolhead from Bimmerboard (r1sthebest) kindly snapped a pic at the Brussels Auto Show (see below).

It's the same car of the September 2019 M2 CS preview in the Brussels Brand Store (built on March 22, 2019 - for the full specs: see here). Looks like they removed the OEM 'Gold Matt' 19" 763M M2 CS wheels and replaced those with a set of 'Black Matt' 19" 763M M Performance Parts. However, the OEM black M2 CS wheels are 'Jet Black' (glossy) and do not feature the MPP logo embossed near the valve stems. In other words: not the OEM M2 CS wheels on display.

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Do they ever change a paint formula of a color without changing the name? That picture looks like the misano blue has a lot more metal flake than the z4 I've seen. Even the party that isn't in a bright light still send to be bright. Just curious if there a possibility that the M2CS has a variant of misano blue.
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Do they ever change a paint formula of a color without changing the name? That picture looks like the misano blue has a lot more metal flake than the z4 I've seen. Even the party that isn't in a bright light still send to be bright. Just curious if there a possibility that the M2CS has a variant of misano blue.
Nope. But it's a metallic color (Misano Blau Metallic), so the metallic flakes glisten/glitter under bright sunlight, spotlights and camera flashlights. MBM is pretty much an 'in your face' 'here I am !' loud color.
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A white car with black wheels is the race look. It's a choice. Blue with gold just reminds me of a Subaru. I just can't shake that image. I like the idea of gunmetal 763s unfortunately powder coating adds cost and potential issues if they are baked too hot.
Just sell the wheels and get Apex in gun metal.
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Just curious, why would BMW use the el cheapo HVAC unit vs. the standard one with display?
Does it really shave that much weight??
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A white car with black wheels is the race look. It's a choice. Blue with gold just reminds me of a Subaru. I just can't shake that image. I like the idea of gunmetal 763s unfortunately powder coating adds cost and potential issues if they are baked too hot.
I personally love the gold on blue, and while it does remind me of Subaru a bit, that doesn't bother me (I'm a fan of them as well). It's also so abnormal to BMW that it's just not something easy to get. Silver or black wheels are are easy all get out to buy aftermarket in plenty of styles. So I'd rather start with the gold and pick up some aftermarket gunmetals. I also have titanium/gunmetal wheels on my Estoril Blue 335, so I don't want the two cars to match too closely, so another reason for gold for me.

All personal taste though, so I totally get people thinking it looks horrible too! I wouldn't mind the calipers being something other than red... but I'll deal.
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Looks so much better without the golden wheels!

Cant wait to get my hands on the alcantara trim
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All personal taste though, so I totally get people thinking it looks horrible too! I wouldn't mind the calipers being something other than red... but I'll deal.
I think the car looks fine in blue with gold. I'll be the first to admit that it's a personal prejudice that I may get over eventually. I had a neighbor (kid) that had a subie with that combo so I associate it with a kid's car...my bad 😂
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this car looks great if you ask me
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I agree the car looks great with the black wheels. Hopefully US ordering happens shortly. According to that Canadian price guide, production is supposed to be early March. I would think reviews will be here soon as well.
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A white car with black wheels is the race look. It's a choice. Blue with gold just reminds me of a Subaru. I just can't shake that image. I like the idea of gunmetal 763s unfortunately powder coating adds cost and potential issues if they are baked too hot.
Just sell the wheels and get Apex in gun metal.
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Got those same wheels on my e90 M3! Previous owner had them.

The apex Arc 8 might be a better choice depending on preference for concavity and weight. I think for me hypothetically the money of the 763m + powdercoat vs the Apex or similar option I would save the cash. Weight is similar between them but Apex is not forged. I really do like the 763m in gun metal though!
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Just curious, why would BMW use the el cheapo HVAC unit vs. the standard one with display?
Does it really shave that much weight??
Probably minimal but perception.

Same with Porsche and their cloth strap door pulls. Damn those pesky tiny aluminium metal ones
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Just curious, why would BMW use the el cheapo HVAC unit vs. the standard one with display?
Does it really shave that much weight??
Probably minimal but perception.

Same with Porsche and their cloth strap door pulls. Damn those pesky tiny aluminium metal ones
Those cloths straps in the Porsches' and M4 CS are an insult to my intelligence..

Seriously, a door handle weighting the same as a slice of pizza is really going to make a difference in total weight.. Please
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Nope. But it's a metallic color (Misano Blau Metallic), so the metallic flakes glisten/glitter under bright sunlight, spotlights and camera flashlights. MBM is pretty much an 'in your face' 'here I am !' loud color.
Here are some paint sample comparisons against Estoril Blue II to show how it behaves in different lighting. It even appears darker oddly under some lighting conditions which was rather weird. The metallic flake amount is less than EBII, so it definitely is a "flatter" color and won't shift as much across the curves of the car as the more metallic colors do.
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Got those same wheels on my e90 M3! Previous owner had them.

The apex Arc 8 might be a better choice depending on preference for concavity and weight. I think for me hypothetically the money of the 763m + powdercoat vs the Apex or similar option I would save the cash. Weight is similar between them but Apex is not forged. I really do like the 763m in gun metal though!
Apex has forged versions of those wheels coming out soon.
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Those cloths straps in the Porsches' and M4 CS are an insult to my intelligence..

Seriously, a door handle weighting the same as a slice of pizza is really going to make a difference in total weight.. Please
I wonder if the door armrest delete is more for track duty elbow room. I think that's the same reason for the center column delete.
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Those cloths straps in the Porsches' and M4 CS are an insult to my intelligence..

Seriously, a door handle weighting the same as a slice of pizza is really going to make a difference in total weight.. Please
I wonder if the door armrest delete is more for track duty elbow room. I think that's the same reason for the center column delete.

No, it's not. There is no practical reason for removing the standard door handles.

It's a phycological flair made to imply that's it's more performance oriented than it is.

The same way M cars have quad exhaust like a Ferrari but only two pipes are actually functional.
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No, it's not. There is no practical reason for removing the standard door handles.

It's a phycological flair made to imply that's it's more performance oriented than it is.

The same way M cars have quad exhaust like a Ferrari but only two pipes are actually functional.
I'm just saying that it's not really a weight saving mod. It's for the race look. So pizzas don't have much to do with it.
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No, it's not. There is no practical reason for removing the standard door handles.

It's a phycological flair made to imply that's it's more performance oriented than it is.

The same way M cars have quad exhaust like a Ferrari but only two pipes are actually functional.
I'm just saying that it's not really a weight saving mod. It's for the race look. So pizzas don't have much to do with it.
So we're in agreement then; it's there for appearances.

Anyways, don't get me started on how asinine it is for BMW considering a 3,500lbs car with back seats a track car.. But that's a whole other discussion.
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