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      05-17-2016, 03:55 AM   #67
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Plot Twist: " M240i fixes crooked seat issue"
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      05-17-2016, 04:00 AM   #68
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Except for kg/lbs, the base M2 has just as many hp and Nm as required.


Or.....

To quote Stevie Wonder the M2 has "Just enough for the city "
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      05-17-2016, 06:21 AM   #69
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      05-17-2016, 06:24 AM   #70
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At least, the M240i has for sure a closed deck engine
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Correct me if I am wrong, isn't it the new m240 slower than m2 from its specs? Why some people say it is a faster car?
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Correct me if I am wrong, isn't it the new m240 slower than m2 from its specs? Why some people say it is a faster car?
Tracy Chapman should chime in and testdrive both

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      05-17-2016, 06:57 AM   #73
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Correct me if I am wrong, isn't it the new m240 slower than m2 from its specs? Why some people say it is a faster car?
Tracy Chapman should chime in and testdrive both

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      05-17-2016, 06:58 AM   #74
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The N55 was needed for the M2 because it shared components from the S55. This was probably unlikely if they had of chosen the B58.
^^This.

That B58 was not designed for hard track use. Just like the regular N55.
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I'm not sure the source of the 369 number but automobile magazine basically says the engine is the same as the 340i. I'm assuming it will be the same 320/330 as the 340i. It's possible that BMW will give the 2 series a bit more like they currently do, but I'm guessing they just match the 340i numbers.

Report: BMW M240i to Replace M235i This Summer via Automobile for iPhone
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...mer/index.html
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      05-17-2016, 07:06 AM   #76
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According to this article, the B58 is less tuneable than the N55.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bm...ght-99845.html
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      05-17-2016, 07:08 AM   #77
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The MY18 M2 LCI could very well get a B58 variant, as BMW in addition to adding power, aims to continually reduce emissions while improving fuel economy. Plus it makes financial sense.
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According to this article, the B58 is less tuneable than the N55.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bm...ght-99845.html
Nice find. And explains a lot if it's correct/true.

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^^This.

That B58 was not designed for hard track use. Just like the regular N55.
Probably not in its current guise but all the ingredients are there being a robust unit with diesel in mind and closed deck !

Not sure I'm too keen on the timing chain being mounted at the rear mind...N47 style
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According to this article, the B58 is less tuneable than the N55.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bm...ght-99845.html
According to Terry, BMW is underrating the B58's power. The stock B58 on the 340i is making the exact same whp 332 as the M2's N55, but at a lower RPM.
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You knew this would happen eventually; it's just natural progression. Cars get faster and more powerful every year. My 2010 E90 335 with a few bolt ons and JB4, felt significantly faster and more furious, in a straight line, than my ///M2. But look at the entire package. I highly doubt a stock M240 will handle, brake, and perform on the track as well as a stock M2. Even cosmetically, the M2 looks so purposeful, when compared to the M235/240. And I still think the 2016 M2 is a bargain. When I took delivery of my M, the dealer had a loaded M235. Sticker was $56k!

Competition is usually a good thing; this almost assures that the next ///M2 will just be that much more powerful...

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If the car had a larger turbo, then I think this would have alleviated virtually any concerns of the car... Personally, I was thoroughly impressed by the m2 until I saw one in real life... the car has very little presence to me and honestly didnt look that much different from an m235i minus wider rear fenders... then combine that w the n55 and the fact that an m240i is now coming out... bmw is really screwing up the marketing of its cars and overall model layout...
That's funny; I was the opposite. I wasn't too impressed by the M2 in pictures. But then I picked mine up and between the rear fenders, ///M wheels, ///M brakes and quad exhaust, I think the car has a huge presence. There are several M235's around here and honestly the difference is striking. And I'm not bashing the 235's at all.

And in terms of the engines, well, it was bound to happen. But it's about the whole package. Like I said earlier, this just means the next ///M2 will be that much more powerful.

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      05-17-2016, 08:01 AM   #85
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According to this article, the B58 is less tuneable than the N55.




http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bm...ght-99845.html
Making good gains on just pump gas. http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35355
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      05-17-2016, 08:03 AM   #86
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I wonder if they fixed the crappy stereo in the 240i.
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      05-17-2016, 08:09 AM   #87
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As I read on German 1erforum.de the M235i is basically a 220i chassiswise(camber/toe) and whatever you do to it , it never will be a more tracky M3/4 chassis like the M2 has to begin with. Understeer @ turn in etc.

I know this does not sound interesting to 80% of this community(I reckon) but keep in mind M2 is not a Quarter Mile King and never will be.



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      05-17-2016, 08:13 AM   #88
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So my question, is M240i same as M235i chassiswise?

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