[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Mito21

Confirmed that euro models manufactured from 1st march have the plastic fender extensions

I don't get it, what's the purpose

Glad I live in Merica and don't have to worry about it.

[AlpsRider]

If it's just an add on then no worries. If it is molded into the inner wheel liner then removing it would be a headache and then you'd have to buy a new liner.

[AUSf22]

Phew, at least the Aussie cars don't get this.

I'm a tad worried my build would have this but it seems like this is a European thing.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

If it's just an add on then no worries. If it is molded into the inner wheel liner then removing it would be a headache and then you'd have to buy a new liner.

There are separate part numbers for these, so I'd say it's just an add-on.

[Mito21]

I have heard that those extended fenders are related to a new regulation in europe of the wheels popping out of the arches, but just rumours.

In the Dealer are not sure about it.

I will expect to receive the car and check how it looks and if it is easy to remove or not.

I believe that some protection for the paint from stone proyections of the weels will add.

[BigKutta]

Just make the fenders wider! That's the sexiest part of this car anyway!

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Mito21

I have heard that those extended fenders are related to a new regulation in europe of the wheels popping out of the arches, but just rumours.

In the Dealer are not sure about it.

I will expect to receive the car and check how it looks and if it is easy to remove or not.

I believe that some protection for the paint from stone proyections of the weels will add.

Mito

I think the purpose of the fender flares is pretty well established. As you indicate, related to how far the tires extend outward in relation to fender margin.

Fender flares are intended to protect OTHER cars on the road from debris stirred up by YOUR tires. Still, as stated in previous post, I question the utility of the fender flares as positioned on the M2C. Per pic below, the area where most debris will be 'flung' is not covered by the flare.

Regarding protection of the YOUR paint . . . again, the area of paint most in jeopardy of damage by debris is not even protected by the flares.

Overall, the flares do not bother me in appearance, but they do not appear to offer much intended utility in current position. Again, I suspect they will be quite easy to remove if undesirable.

///AVM

[medphysdave]

My car doesn't have them on the front and I have a nice scratch on the flat area circled except closer to 12 o'clock. The scratch spans the distance of the flat region. I can only assume a rock was kicked up from the tire. I suspect these little flares would have prevented this. It does have them on the rear, and no scratches.

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

My car doesn't have them on the front and I have a nice scratch on the flat area circled except closer to 12 o'clock. The scratch spans the distance of the flat region. I can only assume a rock was kicked up from the tire. I suspect these little flares would have prevented this. It does have them on the rear, and no scratches.

Dave

I think the most efficacious approach would be to have the flare extend to cover the entire posterior margin of the fender (e.g., to include the part I circled in prior image).

A few comments. . .

The flares are not in place to protect your vehicles, as you know. However, as you suggest, if present, they would offer protection to the fender paint.

The flares ARE in place to protect other vehicles on the road and, if extended to cover the entire posterior margin of the fender, would seem to offer more effective protection.

I think I am going to be the 'odd man out' again when it comes to exterior aesthestics . . . the flares do not bother me, nor do the 'road scars' my paint might not otherwise accrue if the flares were present.

I guess owners of vehicles in which the flares come equipped will have to decide to leave them or remove them? 'Look' of the flares versus paint protection they might offer.

As for Kutta's suggestion that BMW should just make the fender wider . . . well, my rudimentary cost analysis tells me which one would be significantly less expensive. Get used to the fender flares where required by the powers that be.

///AVM

[CoffeeLife]

Model Year 2021 M2 Competition (F87)
Suggested Retail Price Effective May 9, 2020

Start of Production 07/2020

US Spec Guide Released: 05/20/2020


Standard
249 Multifunction steering wheel STD
2NH M Sport Brakes with Grey Calipers STD
2QT 19" M Forged Bi-color Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
(19x9.0, 245/35 R19 front and 19x10.0, 265/35 R19 rear)
STD
2VB Tire pressure monitor STD
2VC Mobility Kit STD
302 Alarm System STD
319 Universal garage-door opener STD
322 Comfort Access keyless entry STD
3AG Rear view camera STD
423 Floor mats STD
428 Warning triangle STD
430 Auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors STD
431 Auto-dimming rearview mirror STD
459 Power Front Seats STD
488 Lumbar support STD
493 Storage package STD
494 Heated front seats STD
4AE Adjustable front armrest STD
4GQ M Seat Belts STD
4MC Carbon Fiber trim STD
508 Park Distance Control STD
521 Rain sensor and auto headlights STD
534 Automatic climate control STD
544 Dynamic Cruise Control STD
563 Ambient Lighting STD
5A2 LED Headlights STD
5AS Active Driving Assistant STD
5DC Folding rear-seat headrests STD
609 Navigation system STD
645 Radio control US STD
655 SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 1year All Access Subscription STD
674 harman/kardon Premium Sound System STD
6AC BMW Assist eCall STD
6AE BMW TeleServices STD
6AK ConnectedDrive Services STD
6AM Advanced Real-Time Traffic Information STD
6AP Remote Services STD
6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility STD
6NH Hands-free Bluetooth and USB audio connection STD
6WA Instrument cluster with extended contents STD
712 M Sport Seats STD
760 Shadowline exterior trim STD
775 Anthracite headliner STD
7M9 Extended Shadowline Trim STD
863 Dealer Directory STD
880 Owner s manual STD
8KL Oil Chg 10,000 mls/12 months STD
8TN Daytime driving lights STD
ZMT Manual Transmission STD
ZTM Tier 2 STD
Non-Metallic STD
Alpine White x
Metallic $550
Black Sapphire Metallic x
Long Beach Blue Metallic x
Sunset Orange Metallic x
Hockenheim Silver Metallic x
Upholstery
MD Dakota Leather STD
MDB2 Black Dakota Leather with blue stitching x
MDOE Black Dakota Leather with orange stitching x

Packages
ZEC Executive Package $1,200
248 Heated Steering Wheel
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
5AC Automatic High Beams
6NW Wireless Charging
6WD WiFi Hotspot with complimentary 3-month or 3GB trial
8TH Speed Limit Info

Options
248 Heated Steering Wheel
Included in package ZEC
29U 19" M Forged Black Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
(19x9.0, 245/35 R19 front and 19x10.0, 265/35 R19 rear)
NC
2MK M Double-clutch Transmission with Drivelogic $2,900
403 Moonroof $1,050
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
Included in package ZEC
5AC Automatic High Beams
Included in package ZEC
6NW Wireless Charging
Included in package ZEC
6NW will delete STD or 100% equipment 6NH x
6WD WiFi Hotspot with complimentary 3-month or 3GB trial
Included in package ZEC
7ME M Driver's Package $2,500
8TH Speed Limit Info
Included in package ZEC
ZBH Black High-gloss Trim with Pearl Chrome Accent NC
ZRD Daily Rental NC
(EOP 06/20)

Wheels
19" M Forged Black Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
Front: 19x9.0, 245/35 R19
Rear: 19x10.0, 265/35 R19
NC
Code: 29U
Style: 788M
19" M Forged Bi-color Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
Front: 19x9.0, 245/35 R19
Rear: 19x10.0, 265/35 R19
Standard
Code: 2QT
Style: 788M

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

Model Year 2021 M2 Competition (F87)
Suggested Retail Price Effective May 9, 2020

Start of Production 07/2020

US Spec Guide Released: 05/20/2020


Standard
249 Multifunction steering wheel STD
2NH M Sport Brakes with Grey Calipers STD
2QT 19" M Forged Bi-color Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
(19x9.0, 245/35 R19 front and 19x10.0, 265/35 R19 rear)
STD
2VB Tire pressure monitor STD
2VC Mobility Kit STD
302 Alarm System STD
319 Universal garage-door opener STD
322 Comfort Access keyless entry STD
3AG Rear view camera STD
423 Floor mats STD
428 Warning triangle STD
430 Auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors STD
431 Auto-dimming rearview mirror STD
459 Power Front Seats STD
488 Lumbar support STD
493 Storage package STD
494 Heated front seats STD
4AE Adjustable front armrest STD
4GQ M Seat Belts STD
4MC Carbon Fiber trim STD
508 Park Distance Control STD
521 Rain sensor and auto headlights STD
534 Automatic climate control STD
544 Dynamic Cruise Control STD
563 Ambient Lighting STD
5A2 LED Headlights STD
5AS Active Driving Assistant STD
5DC Folding rear-seat headrests STD
609 Navigation system STD
645 Radio control US STD
655 SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 1year All Access Subscription STD
674 harman/kardon Premium Sound System STD
6AC BMW Assist eCall STD
6AE BMW TeleServices STD
6AK ConnectedDrive Services STD
6AM Advanced Real-Time Traffic Information STD
6AP Remote Services STD
6CP Apple CarPlay Compatibility STD
6NH Hands-free Bluetooth and USB audio connection STD
6WA Instrument cluster with extended contents STD
712 M Sport Seats STD
760 Shadowline exterior trim STD
775 Anthracite headliner STD
7M9 Extended Shadowline Trim STD
863 Dealer Directory STD
880 Owner s manual STD
8KL Oil Chg 10,000 mls/12 months STD
8TN Daytime driving lights STD
ZMT Manual Transmission STD
ZTM Tier 2 STD
Non-Metallic STD
Alpine White x
Metallic $550
Black Sapphire Metallic x
Long Beach Blue Metallic x
Sunset Orange Metallic x
Hockenheim Silver Metallic x
Upholstery
MD Dakota Leather STD
MDB2 Black Dakota Leather with blue stitching x
MDOE Black Dakota Leather with orange stitching x

Packages
ZEC Executive Package $1,200
248 Heated Steering Wheel
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
5AC Automatic High Beams
6NW Wireless Charging
6WD WiFi Hotspot with complimentary 3-month or 3GB trial
8TH Speed Limit Info

Options
248 Heated Steering Wheel
Included in package ZEC
29U 19" M Forged Black Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
(19x9.0, 245/35 R19 front and 19x10.0, 265/35 R19 rear)
NC
2MK M Double-clutch Transmission with Drivelogic $2,900
403 Moonroof $1,050
552 Adaptive Full LED Lights
Included in package ZEC
5AC Automatic High Beams
Included in package ZEC
6NW Wireless Charging
Included in package ZEC
6NW will delete STD or 100% equipment 6NH x
6WD WiFi Hotspot with complimentary 3-month or 3GB trial
Included in package ZEC
7ME M Driver's Package $2,500
8TH Speed Limit Info
Included in package ZEC
ZBH Black High-gloss Trim with Pearl Chrome Accent NC
ZRD Daily Rental NC
(EOP 06/20)

Wheels
19" M Forged Black Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
Front: 19x9.0, 245/35 R19
Rear: 19x10.0, 265/35 R19
NC
Code: 29U
Style: 788M
19" M Forged Bi-color Y-Spoke Wheels Style 788 M with Mixed Performance Tires
Front: 19x9.0, 245/35 R19
Rear: 19x10.0, 265/35 R19
Standard
Code: 2QT
Style: 788M

Coffee

Thank you for updated information.

Forgive me for not being able to decipher on my own, but is there anything in your list provided that stands out as changes and/or available new options over 20' model.

///AVM

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Coffee

Thank you for updated information.

Forgive me for not being able to decipher on my own, but is there anything in your list provided that stands out as changes and/or available new options over 20' model.

///AVM

No, there is no change; it's like they took an eraser and removed "20" and replaced it with "21" from the window sticker and called it a day.

[CoffeeLife]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

No. Nothing that I could see vs the 2020 options. My dealer also let me know that there was no price change and I would not have to redo any paperwork.

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Poochie

No, there is no change; it's like they took an eraser and removed "20" and replaced it with "21" from the window sticker and called it a day.

Thank you Poochie

That is what I thought. . . and somewhat anticipated as time moved on since inception of this thread.

///AVM

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Thank you Poochie

That is what I thought. . . and somewhat anticipated as time moved on since inception of this thread.

///AVM

No problem, seems like you lucked-out on jumping into a '20

I gotta say, I'm little disappointed I was wrong about predicting some new add-ons, for the end-of-model but it seems the CS was the upgrade..

[JCZ5]

Been waiting for this release. Thanks for posting and guess were not surprised there are no changes. At least there was not a price increase

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Poochie

No problem, seems like you lucked-out on jumping into a '20

I gotta say, I'm little disappointed I was wrong about predicting some new add-ons, for the end-of-model but it seems the CS was the upgrade..

I wonder why BMW even changed over to the 2021 model?

Not sure how the decision will impact sales of 20' models sitting on dealership lots, for better or for worse, if at all?

Intuitively, there were probably many prospective buyers who were holding out to see if anything 'new' would be made available? Now that it seems there will be nothing 'new' available, I suspect many such buyers will jump on available builds to expedite ownership experience? Perhaps garner discounts on the 'older' model that might not be as readily available with new builds?

Not sure how important it is to prospective buyers to purchase a model with 21' tag over the 20' tag? Seems those who are not pressured by time or need have nothing to lose by placing build for 21' and waiting until October/November for deliveries to start rolling off the docks.

JC, I know your basis of securing a 21' chassis resided more with fact that you wanted to build your own and enjoy the experience from build to first launch. Also, you are not particularly pressured by time, and I suspect October/November is an acceptable time frame to wait to get exactly what you want. Not sure if you represent the majority, or if the 20' models will start to fly off the lots, so to say?

///AVM

[Fugly M3]

I've noticed those fender things on the BYO for a while...are they on the U.S. bound MY2021s?

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

I wonder why BMW even changed over to the 2021 model?

Not sure how the decision will impact sales of 20' models sitting on dealership lots, for better or for worse, if at all?

Intuitively, there were probably many prospective buyers who were holding out to see if anything 'new' would be made available? Now that it seems there will be nothing 'new' available, I suspect many such buyers will jump on available builds to expedite ownership experience? Perhaps garner discounts on the 'older' model that might not be as readily available with new builds?

Not sure how important it is to prospective buyers to purchase a model with 21' tag over the 20' tag? Seems those who are not pressured by time or need have nothing to lose by placing build for 21' and waiting until October/November for deliveries to start rolling off the docks.

JC, I know your basis of securing a 21' chassis resided more with fact that you wanted to build your own and enjoy the experience from build to first launch. Also, you are not particularly pressured by time, and I suspect October/November is an acceptable time frame to wait to get exactly what you want. Not sure if you represent the majority, or if the 20' models will start to fly off the lots, so to say?

///AVM

The typical purpose of changing the model year was for planned obsolescence in the car industry, where yearly styling changes meant consumers could easily discern a car's newness, or lack thereof, in this case.

However, in the United States and Canada are identified and regulated by model year, whereas other markets use production date (month/year) to identify specific vehicles, and model codes in place of the "year" (model year) in the North American make-model-year identifier.

So in essence, the model year change is for identification process and not to in typical sense of adding or changing options and features.

[JCZ5]

///AVM - I definitely thought about picking something off the lot now that PCD may be delayed, etc. Also, I would ideally want to receive the car in August / September, not necessary September / October, so this is a bummer.

However, the biggest drivers for me to default to ordering from factory are cost and spec. Out of the 26 available HS MT vehicles, only ~3 have orange interiors. However, you would also have to factor in cost of transporting the car to me. In addition, these dealers are not willing to discount to what I am getting OTD to my ordered '21 car (this may change when more vehicles arrive on our shores).

In my mind, a cannot justify getting a '20 at a higher cost than '21 M2C. Even though it would mean I would get a '20 much earlier...

[BigKutta]

I'm surprised that this is mandated, but a simple splash/mud guard is not. There must have been some studies done by the EU around the "trajectory of flying debris"

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Coffee

Thank you for updated information.

Forgive me for not being able to decipher on my own, but is there anything in your list provided that stands out as changes and/or available new options over 20' model.

///AVM

Zip, nada...