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05-20-2019, 07:58 PM | #134 |
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Was thinking about an M2 CS but with new M3 about 1 year away(lighter and better performing) I'm not sure the M2 is that compelling anymore. A CSL versión in much more limited numbers maybe?
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Adaptive Suspensions is not a major selling point imho. People that want a comfortable ride typically don't want a two-door coupe with rear seats for midgets. Sure, there's exceptions but stock suspension is pretty good and comfortable. M2 CS is an OEM tuned and modded M2 with warranty. There will definitively be people interested in this value proposition. This said, if you're out of warranty and have a sizable rainy day fund, any M2C owners can achieve 90% of the M2C by paying that extra 20% premium (or much less) M2CS owners end up paying. Last edited by Dav3; 05-20-2019 at 09:32 PM.. |
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05-20-2019, 09:33 PM | #136 | ||
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It's a 2020 MY, it's about time the suspension has some electronic adjustability, like my 1999 Acura Tein Super Streets. The same way the fancy 100% locking e-diff makes M cars feels so more capable. I welcome and fully embrace the technology that can manipulate the damping, on demand but that doesn't mean one cannot get by without it. |
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05-20-2019, 09:37 PM | #137 | |
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But at the same time, very few M2 owners have complained about the stock suspension. I've driven M4's with Adaptive Suspension and without. There's a noticeable difference but we're not talking about Rolls Royce Air suspension. It's becoming standard because that's how the car industry tends to innovate. Flagship model features of five years ago now become standard on new cars. As a car company in a very competitive market, you always have to offer 'more', even if the end result isn't much of an upgrade. |
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05-20-2019, 09:39 PM | #138 |
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I'm with Artemis in thinking CF fender is a huge plus if it comes as a standard equipment with the CS.
Special edition must to be sufficiently aesthetically differentiated.
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05-20-2019, 09:47 PM | #139 | ||
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I just appreciate the added technology and understand the limitations of static springs and only a manipulatable dampers there would be a compromise and can't always be "felt." But its an improvement nonetheless over a static setup and I'll take it. |
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05-20-2019, 11:03 PM | #141 |
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05-21-2019, 12:01 AM | #143 |
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Guys, it’s got the carbon goodies where it counts: hood (to reduce mass at the front and improve the weight distribution) and roof (to reduce the CG).
A CF front lip which is likely to get damaged or scratched to hell is asinine IMO. Porsche does it in matte black plastic on the GT3, BMW should pay attention. A CF trunk might actually make the weight distribution worse (albeit reducing overall mass), and the carbon fenders can’t save that much weight. Maybe they’re a 50% fancy, 50% functional item. The ZCP seats are better than the regular ones, I’ve had both. The stitching doesn’t hurt performance. Adaptive suspension is important for folks living in areas with neglected/bad roads, it makes the car more usable more of the time. I use Comfort a lot in daily driving, especially with the GC camber plates I need some extra compliance on the DC potholed roads. Should be a good car. Worth the money? Of course if you can afford it . Actually the thing I’d miss the most compared to my M3 would be the HUD, I’ve fallen in love with it. But I wouldn’t keep a car just because of that, and the days of me needing 4 doors are coming to an end soon. Sign me up.
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I am, but just stating my own personal opinion. My E39 M5 and Z4M coupe obviously have passive suspensions. The cars have much different suspensions given their respective purposes but both are spot-on. I can barely (well, to be honest, not at all) tell the difference between the different suspension settings on my F80 M3, and none of them match the purposeful settings of my other M cars.
IMO, bring on a well-calibrated passive M-suspension. Looking forward to my M2C.
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Back when I bought my M3 I test drove with and without adaptive suspension. Inferior when you compare it to other systems on the market. For instance GM’s magnetic ride is leaps and bounds better. I ended up opting out of the adaptive suspension as I found some coilovers would be a better solution.
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It's also funny how people are getting all heated up by paying more now for what F80/82 competition had from the beginning.
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05-21-2019, 01:20 AM | #151 |
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Most of the time on limited production vehicles, bespoke parts are not allowed to be purchased unless you own the vehicle.
Not sure if that applies to this particular vehicle but last time I checked it was prohibited up to the E92 GTS, which was vin-locked from ordering parts. |
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You can't compare to the M3/M4CS since people consider the M3, the real M3. Others might think the M2CS is the next 1M also so...
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Carbon Front lip: I have one on my f-type and damage clearly seems to be a function of ride height. Mine has remained unscathed after a few cringeworthy moments, but the car sits kinda high IMO. Not a part I want to replace. It also has a plastic flap beneath it that has not been so lucky. |
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I personally also don't care for it. |
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