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      07-06-2020, 04:43 PM   #2245
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I think the tire selection is pretty clear about the PSS or cup2. I'm definitely getting a set of cup2s with the car and probably ordering a set of PS4S to go on when it arrives. Yes, I am that guy who would order a new set of tires just to be able to play with the Michelin track connect. Once the novelty wears off just stick with the PS4S

I actually might see about playing with tire pressure in colder weather to see how they heat up.
You are making the correct decision when it comes to the tire specs otherwise you would have to wear your PSSs out before changing to the much improved PS4S. Besides, this new Cup2 tire has been developed for the CS specifically and it has not been released for the aftermarket, at least not yet. This way you will have the option of running the new Cup2s or the improved PS4S over having to stick with the option tire the car comes equipped with (PSS).

MR. posted the production numbers for the new Cup2 tire on another thread; they are 120817 245s and 266154 265s.

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Aren't the new Cup2s like $450. a pop?
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I believe I am finally at peace with choosing a color and I landed on black. Gold wheels and red calipers are likely options.
2NH - M Sport Brakes with Red Calipers are the standard brakes, the only other option is 2NK - M Carbon Ceramic Brakes. Hopefully you like the red calipers or else you need to get the carbon ceramics to get something different.
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I believe I am finally at peace with choosing a color and I landed on black. Gold wheels and red calipers are likely options.
2NH - M Sport Brakes with Red Calipers are the standard brakes, the only other option is 2NK - M Carbon Ceramic Brakes. Hopefully you like the red calipers or else you need to get the carbon ceramics to get something different.
Yes. I asked the sales guy today if I could get carbon ceramics with red callipers. Sadly not possible. So it will be steel brakes for me. Not really a problem but I would have liked the carbon rotors. Black, red and silver is tasty.
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Have the calipers repainted any color you want.
CCB's is a must have item for me but I may ultimately change color.
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      07-07-2020, 11:14 AM   #2251
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Yes. I asked the sales guy today if I could get carbon ceramics with red callipers. Sadly not possible. So it will be steel brakes for me. Not really a problem but I would have liked the carbon rotors. Black, red and silver is tasty.
Check out surface transforms. I believe they are now selling this size CCM disc for BMW through racing brake. I think it's about $10k for the set, but very low cost to refurbish if you don't push them past the point of being refurbished.

If you want CCB, the factory option is a pretty good deal because your paying a subsidized cost for the discs in the US. Can always go steal later.
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If you want CCB, the factory option is a pretty good deal because your paying a subsidized cost for the discs in the US. Can always go steal later.
Got to be original for me.

BTW I think the black, gold wheels and red brakes you have (finally? ) chosen will look superb. German colours.
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Have the calipers repainted any color you want.
CCB's is a must have item for me but I may ultimately change color.
Why are ccbs a must for you?
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M2CS is a special car, it deserves CCB's
The standard brakes are pretty and big but they are extremely heavy.
I'd do AP's if CCB's weren't available.
CCB's have amazing feel.
CCB's have low dust.
It's a easy decision 🏁
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M2CS is a special car, it deserves CCB's
The standard brakes are pretty and big but they are extremely heavy.
I'd do AP's if CCB's weren't available.
CCB's have amazing feel.
CCB's have low dust.
It's a easy decision 🏁
Does the CCBS make the car feel more agile and faster with the less weight?
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Theoretically yes, I've certainly noticed the benefits of lighter wheels.
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      07-08-2020, 10:12 PM   #2257
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Theoretically yes, I've certainly noticed the benefits of lighter wheels.
Why theoretically, you either feel the difference when you drive or you dont

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Theoretically yes, I've certainly noticed the benefits of lighter wheels.
Why theoretically, you either feel the difference when you drive or you dont

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Simply to avoid getting into a internet argument with someone who disagrees, people will split hairs over this sort of thing.
I do believe I will notice the difference.
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M2CS is a special car, it deserves CCB's
The standard brakes are pretty and big but they are extremely heavy.
I'd do AP's if CCB's weren't available.
CCB's have amazing feel.
CCB's have low dust.
It's a easy decision 🏁
Extremely heavy is a bit of a stretch, no?!? I think it's about a 15 lb. difference between steel and CCB's. I agree that every bit counts, but like CanAutM3 stated in the thread about the weight differences, "Huge [difference] is an exaggeration."
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Does the CCBS make the car feel more agile and faster with the less weight?
I think that he refers to the benefit of reduced unsprung weight (lighter brakes and lighter wheels).

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M2CS is a special car, it deserves CCB's
The standard brakes are pretty and big but they are extremely heavy.
I'd do AP's if CCB's weren't available.
CCB's have amazing feel.
CCB's have low dust.
It's a easy decision 🏁
Extremely heavy is a bit of a stretch, no?!? I think it's about a 15 lb. difference between steel and CCB's. I agree that every bit counts, but like CanAutM3 stated in the thread about the weight differences, "Huge [difference] is an exaggeration."
The CCB's save 55 pounds over the standard M2c/CS brake rotors.
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Does the CCBS make the car feel more agile and faster with the less weight?
I think that he refers to the benefit of reduced unsprung weight (lighter brakes and lighter wheels).

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Yes, both unsprung and rotational weight
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M2CS is a special car, it deserves CCB's
The standard brakes are pretty and big but they are extremely heavy.
I'd do AP's if CCB's weren't available.
CCB's have amazing feel.
CCB's have low dust.
It's a easy decision 🏁
Extremely heavy is a bit of a stretch, no?!? I think it's about a 15 lb. difference between steel and CCB's. I agree that every bit counts, but like CanAutM3 stated in the thread about the weight differences, "Huge [difference] is an exaggeration."
The CCB's save 55 pounds over the standard M2c/CS brake rotors.
Yes I know, hence my 15 lb. [per corner] statement. My apologies for not being more specific. I thought most would have understood what I was referring to. My bad!
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If I get a CS allocation, I'll skip the CCBS due to replacement cost. I will just be worrying about the $16k replacement cost too much.

Can't wait for the US allocation process to begin so people know where they stand. Trying to buy a limited edition car is tough.
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It's a direct fitment to swap the steel rotors if you either had to ditch the CCB rotors due to replacement cost or ended up doing so many track days that you were at risk of warring out the CCB rotors.
Also the complete CCB retro fit kit can be had for 11765$ @ Bimmerworld. And other sources.
Do what make you happy, and good luck on allocation.
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If I get a CS allocation, I'll skip the CCBS due to replacement cost. I will just be worrying about the $16k replacement cost too much.

Can't wait for the US allocation process to begin so people know where they stand. Trying to buy a limited edition car is tough.
It does seem out of place on an $83k car a bit.

BMWNA MSRP for each front rotor is $4377 and rear at $3752, so the four rotors have an MSRP of $16,258. The pads for them are $664 front and $467 rear for a total of $1131. Hence just rotors and pads total to an MSRP of $17,389.

17,389/83,600 = 20.8%. So a bit over 20% of the MSRP of the car for just the replacement brake parts...add in a couple of wear sensors and DIY labor plus buy discounted for maybe $14k. Still pretty pricey DIY brake job.

These are for the F8x parts, but I'd assume they're similar. I did a quick check of FCPEuro's site, and they show no hit on the CCB rotor part number. Their lifetime free replacement warranty is fantastic, but they're not crazy enough to offer the CCB rotors it appears.
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