10-10-2018, 11:27 PM | #23 |
Major General
5860
Rep 6,631
Posts |
Don't have an M2C but I think if you are going to tune the car then get the M2C. I think if you compare a tuned M2C to your OG car it's going be a worthy upgrade, but I am just guessing.
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-11-2018, 06:56 AM | #25 |
Brigadier General
2049
Rep 3,714
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-11-2018, 07:11 AM | #26 | |
Colonel
3179
Rep 2,577
Posts |
Quote:
Only thing that can hurt M2C is the obsolete of F platform. OG or C, in two years, hurt is coming.
__________________
Lemania 2320
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-11-2018, 07:20 AM | #27 |
Brigadier General
2049
Rep 3,714
Posts |
Well if they make the next 2 bigger that might help the resale of m2c. If they take away 6MT I can’t even imagine.
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-11-2018, 09:04 PM | #28 |
Second Lieutenant
253
Rep 221
Posts |
M2C won’t have good resale long term due to the sound.
Eventually electric cars will blow away any ICE engine sports car and people will only want old noisy petrol engine cars for the driving emotion / sound they give which the C lacks. |
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2018, 06:18 AM | #29 |
Enlisted Member
99
Rep 44
Posts |
I drove an M2C a couple weeks ago, and here's my thoughts in comparison with my 2018 LCi...(both cars were US-spec). Mine is DCT, the M2C was a manual
- Sound: I prefer the sound of the N55. Deeper, and love the note at WOT. That said, the noise from the M2C was louder (stock for stock) and had a more enjoyable note than the M3/M4. Sound enjoyment is completely subjective and varies from person to person. - Seats: The M2C seats are way better. Not enough of a reason for me to upgrade by itself. These are the seats it should have had from the outset. - Power: Yup, there's more. It is noticeable, but so is the extra weight of the car. It still feels balanced and very manageable. At various loads it does pick up quicker while rolling, likely due to having quicker spool on two smaller turbos when compared to the twin-scroll single. It's nice to know the S55 can handle more power, but crank-hub mods and other upgrades are needed to make it reliable. - Having the M1/M2 buttons is nice, but not a requirement. the OG is excellent right out of the box for static settings and only comfort, sport, sport+. The suspension is still non-adjustable. - Track times: Worthless to 90% of us. We aren't professional race/test drivers, and most people will NEVER see that fast of a 'ring lap. It's nice to know that it's just as capable, and 9s is a lifetime in racing...but we don't live in that world. Most of us drive on real roads with speed limits, rules, and traffic. The occasional track day. This doesn't make/break a purchase for me. 8m on the ring is still very fast for a street car. - 0-60 times: 0.1-0.2s faster. Great. 40 more hp and minimal gain here. Again, not enough reason to upgrade. In the real world with stop lights and speed limits...4.2s is more than good enough for me. The OG is is still faster 0-60 than just about any American muscle car short of a special-edition (i.e. ZL1, GT500, Hellcat, etc). The new M2C is a great car, don't get me wrong. I just don't feel the need to upgrade. If I really want more power and better handling...a Dinan Big Turbo/tune levels that power, and the M-Performance coilovers are great. Adding all that still brings me in under the cost of the M2C. I kind of compare it to upgrading your iPhone X to the XS...it's a "little bit" better. Is it worth dumping a ton of money just so you can have the latest and greatest? When the following year's model comes out...are you going to feel buyer's remorse again? Edit: And to address a comment below, the longer you drive something, the more you acclimate to it. Differences become less noticeable and you adapt. I daily-drive my LCi, and the differences are immediately apparent. That being said, as you adapt over time, you learn where and how to exploit those differences. Last edited by BMW_MSquared; 10-18-2018 at 02:54 AM.. Reason: Fixed typos. |
10-12-2018, 06:30 AM | #30 |
S0THPAW
8680
Rep 7,846
Posts |
Mine has small blue brakes and manual adjustable M2 seats + DCT + just plain EU spec and there is no,I repeat no weight gain noticable vs my ex OG M2 (5-2016 DCT)...au contraire it's more connected(front carbon strut anybody?) , and more playable irl thanks to readjusted MDM.
My M2C now has 1000kms on it and just like OG M2, it's a blast. S55 sound is just what it is, but it pops and it bangs, it's getting better and better. The way it revs/thrust/and goes to XXX mph is on just another level than OG M2... But each to their own. Just believe the guys who drove it for 15minutes/30 miles or so Cheers Robin |
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2018, 06:37 AM | #31 | |
S0THPAW
8680
Rep 7,846
Posts |
Quote:
N55 is just a bread and butter good sounding off-the shelve engine. S55 can sustain hot weather/track abuse. My stock N55 in OG M2 could not. So be my guest when tuning N55. I hope it turns out alright.... Cheers Robin |
|
Appreciate
1
Nkc1600.50 |
10-13-2018, 03:42 AM | #32 | |
Brigadier General
2049
Rep 3,714
Posts |
Quote:
Any reason to get the blue brakes again? I hate how they turn green. I'm guessing you want to use 18" track wheels still. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2018, 02:50 PM | #34 | ||
.
13117
Rep 8,300
Posts |
Quote:
I bet that M2C feels great at speed as it has so much more extra grunt. I might be wrong but I thought the OG M2 has M3/4 Pistons and Rings and maybe even the forged crank as well...
__________________
///
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2018, 02:53 PM | #35 | |
Captain
1367
Rep 788
Posts |
Quote:
#Factsmatter https://www.***********.com/content.php?6950-Full-BMW-F87-M2-technical-specs-including-N55B30T0-breakdown-and-comparison-to-S55-N54 |
|
Appreciate
1
///M TOWN13117.00 |
10-13-2018, 03:23 PM | #36 | ||
.
13117
Rep 8,300
Posts |
Quote:
Although I believe it's an open deck and not a closed deck block.
__________________
///
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2018, 03:35 PM | #37 |
Captain
1367
Rep 788
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2018, 04:54 PM | #38 |
Colonel
3684
Rep 2,955
Posts |
What's with all the resale talk? Automobiles are terrible investments. Spend your money on real estate or stocks, bonds, etc if you can't stomach losing money on a sports car.
|
Appreciate
4
|
10-13-2018, 11:11 PM | #40 |
Brigadier General
2049
Rep 3,714
Posts |
Bet it will be at least 80 which is even worse than 55 to 61 increase. You will probably be able to build a M2CS with M performance CF parts.
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2018, 01:51 AM | #41 | |
Colonel
3179
Rep 2,577
Posts |
Quote:
Also don't forget the interior. CS/GTS is special everywhere and cabin is where you spend 95% time with the car. Anyone having deep pocket trying to mod comp into a CS, don't. Buy a cs instead.
__________________
Lemania 2320
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2018, 08:23 AM | #42 | |
Brigadier General
2049
Rep 3,714
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2018, 01:27 PM | #43 | |
Major
793
Rep 1,366
Posts |
Quote:
$75k would be the sweet spot that gets me there...and it needs to absolutely be lighter than the 16-18 M2 for me to consider it. If it goes UP in weight class again, I don't think its worth it. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-14-2018, 08:47 PM | #44 |
Registered
6
Rep 3
Posts |
I was thinking of changing my M2 to the new M2 Comp as well but for 9-10 secs.? If we do the math it will be $2,000 USD per second for the 20k difference.
Lol.
__________________
2018 Mclaren 570s Spyder - Curacao Blue (Track Package)
2017 AMG GTR - Jupiter Red 2014 Ferrari 458 Italia - Black 2018 BMW M2 - Alpine White 2017 Toyota GT86 (Limited Edition) - Supernova |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|