[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by GerardzM

This makes sense to me to go for the switch. Last thing I'd want is an issue at speed at the track. There have been multiple reports on this with the n55 M2.
It's like it starves itself of fuel when things speed up/ heat up.

Exactly.

And in other threads I see stories from members about OG M2 (N55) being more special(29k units produced afaik) than oncoming S55 M2 Competition. Whatever...

Anyway, I still miss my 1M, N54, love that engine(never had HPFP issues).

Love my M2, but N55 is the Achilles Heel so to speak. In many ways except sound.

M2 with S55, the real deal. I can't wait to drive it.

Cheers
Robin

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by 10"

Yes! Sorry I had to drive pretty slow because my 3 year old was sleeping in the back and my wife had her seat reclined sleeping too!! Lol.

Your M2 looked great!! You made the right choice keeping the OG M2, IMO...

Thank you.

No worries. I had my pregnant sister in the passenger seat. God forbid I go over the speed limit with her in the car!

[Robin_NL]

Grouphug?

Cheers
Robin

[No Boost]

What'd I miss?

OP, stop taking pictures and writing feedback. Save that for car enthusiast forums.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

What'd I miss?

OP, stop taking pictures and writing feedback. Save that for car enthusiast forums.

I seriously didn't say anything out of line. People have issues.

[Shankska]

whattttt no M2C for you?

[dmboone25]

[QUOTE=six-n-twins53;23552046]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

So the extra hp and weight will improve skidpad? You're silly to assume that extra horsepower will make everything better. You sound like an auto executive who assumes that horsepower trumps all. Please enlighten me as to how horsepower helps braking and my other "opinion" catagories. I do not think the word "facts" means what you think it means

Those tests and results haven't been conducted and/or published yet, not even by BMW. However, I stand by my statement that the car will be objectively better in every single performance test. Otherwise, what's the point of BMW releasing the new car with the "Competition" badge, which is supposed to be better than the respective base M car in their new hierarchy?

Otherwise, they could have detuned the S55 even more, left out the CF strut brace, not reworked any of the DSC settings, etc., etc. If they had gone that route, the car would still be called the M2 with no additional moniker.

Now subjectively...well, that's what the forums are for, right? So we can debate endlessly about the wheels, redesigned front end, exhaust note, inserts in the seats....

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by chris719

Wheels look pretty good in the video. Still not as aggressive as 437M but not bad. That vertical video tho .

Diffuser / exhaust looks so much better on the OG car.

The wheels look very nice in the "slow roll" speed - really like that.

I think BMW makes the diffusers ugly on purpose - I am guessing that is one of the most popular M performance parts...

[csbear]

F82LUV, thank you for the comparison and pics.

IMO, nothing wrong with putting the comparison of the M2C vs M2 in the M2C forum. The primary topic is still the new M2C in her post. She just decided that keeping the og M2 was best for her. I believe she made the sensible decision and I'm going for the M2C myself.

Every professional or amateur review shows pics mainly of the new car and talks about it in detail, yet they still make pro/con comparisons against the previous M2. No review/comparo would be complete without it.

Both M2 owners and future M2C owners can be helped to make a decision by such reviews.

[10"]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Thank you.

No worries. I had my pregnant sister in the passenger seat. God forbid I go over the speed limit with her in the car!

Hahaha!! Race of the slowpokes then

Thanks for the photo

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by 10"

Yes! Sorry I had to drive pretty slow because my 3 year old was sleeping in the back and my wife had her seat reclined sleeping too!! Lol.

Your M2 looked great!! You made the right choice keeping the OG M2, IMO...

I tend to drive slowly to PUT them to sleep...THEN I turn on the taps.

[cptobvious]

OP, I definitely want to thank you for creating this thread. I am 100% in accordance with others who've pointed out that all the reviews we've read to-date, other than MR's, are written by automotive journalists who maybe drove the OG M2 3 years ago and are now writing up the M2C, and in many cases making comparisons against the OG M2! If any of them are like me, with the memory of a goldfish, then I can't imagine that their comparisons are very reliable!

That you have an M2, that you've been driving it for several years, that you're clearly a performance enthusiast all help us on this forum understand the real differences between the M2 and the M2C. Hearing your impressions and your experience and your thought processes help to inform those who are considering upgrading whether it makes sense to or not. And the fact that you went to a dealer and got us video footage and photos is outstanding!

So, thank you!

[10"]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I tend to drive slowly to PUT them to sleep...THEN I turn on the taps.

Haha occasionally I try but the last time I did that the kid said "wanna get out of papa's car" which is code for: there is a 50/50 chance of vomit!! Having learned my lessons I am no long brave like you!!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by 10"

Haha occasionally I try but the last time I did that the kid said "wanna get out of papa's car" which is code for: there is a 50/50 chance of vomit!! Having learned my lessons I am no long brave like you!!

50/50 chance of flying projectiles = no bueno in the 1M.

totally makes sense...I would coast along as well...

[10"]

I am still confused why people are fighting in this thread; while I am discussing child vomit! Lol

F87's post is totally fine! I think M2 owners have the right to post their thoughts and photos of the M2C. They are the same car yknow; just updated.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by 10"

I am still confused why people are fighting in this thread; while I am discussing child vomit.

F87's post is totally fine! I think M2 owners have the right to post their thoughts and photos of the M2C. They are the same car yknow; just updated.

Considering that I had two separate deposits with dealers for the M2C (still have one actually) and would've taken delivery Saturday, I'd think I'm allowed to chime in and show people some comparative pictures!


As for the potential in vehicle accidents...yet another reason to not have children. Haha.

[M3_WC]

Also doesn’t help you were offered $17k less than what you expected for trade-in.

Keep driving your current M2, it has done the bulk of its initial depreciation.

[Slaney]

Originally Posted by akkando

Sell the 788 and buy the 763m or some other light weight wheel you like. Performance and looks upgrade.

Done. Talked to the dealer who stated they would buy back the 788's as an offset for new wheels. I'm sure I'll get hosed on the amount but the 788 wheels are awful.... If it offsets what the 763M's are being quoted at the port ($5510.00) it will be worth it. I think...

[F87_LCI]

[QUOTE=dmboone25;23553210]

Originally Posted by six-n-twins53

...Otherwise, what's the point of BMW releasing the new car with the "Competition" badge, which is supposed to be better than the respective base M car in their new hierarchy?

lol, yeah, companies would never release a new product, hype it up to be bigger, better, faster, lighter (well we know this one isn't true!), stronger...etc. etc.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marketing

It's called ROI Bro. Shareholder's have an affinity toward it.

...and before I get roasted for daring to have an opinion in a public forum...I'm not crapping on the M2C...I'm sure it's a great car in it's own right. New owners will be very happy to have it.

OP - out of curiosity - did they allow you to drive the M2C at all?? If it was your allocation and they stood to gain from the sale/trade in, can't see the harm in letting you put a few kms on it, just to be sure. They would still be able to sell it as new if you didn't take it (maybe even work in a mark-up!).

[F87_LCI]

Originally Posted by Slaney

Done. Talked to the dealer who stated they would buy back the 788's as an offset for new wheels. I'm sure I'll get hosed on the amount but the 788 wheels are awful.... If it offsets what the 763M's are being quoted at the port ($5510.00) it will be worth it. I think...

Uh...what? They will "buy" them off you, lol. Yeah, you're getting 2K for those... then they'll spin around and sell you the 763's for 55 hundred.

"Thank you for shopping at BMW...Here is your complimentary tube of lube."


I bet you would get more privately...if you can find anyone that actually likes them, lol...maybe try the Toyota/Lexus forums??

[F87LUV]

[QUOTE=F87_LCI;23554888]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

lol, yeah, companies would never release a new product, hype it up to be bigger, better, faster, lighter (well we know this one isn't true!), stronger...etc. etc.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marketing

It's called ROI Bro. Shareholder's have an affinity toward it.

...and before I get roasted for daring to have an opinion in a public forum...I'm not crapping on the M2C...I'm sure it's a great car in it's own right. New owners will be very happy to have it.

OP - out of curiosity - did they allow you to drive the M2C at all?? If it was your allocation and they stood to gain from the sale/trade in, can't see the harm in letting you put a few kms on it, just to be sure. They would still be able to sell it as new if you didn't take it (maybe even work in a mark-up!).

Nope. He revved it a couple of times but I wasn't allowed to drive it. I haven't written the car off entirely but I want to drive one first. Maybe I'll reconsider it next year. They marked up the car 8k after I released it back to them. I was paying sticker.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Slaney

Done. Talked to the dealer who stated they would buy back the 788's as an offset for new wheels. I'm sure I'll get hosed on the amount but the 788 wheels are awful.... If it offsets what the 763M's are being quoted at the port ($5510.00) it will be worth it. I think...

You can get the 763m for like 3k I think. Sell the 788 for a decent chunk to offset that and you are going to be out of pocket a lot less than 5.5k for a set from the dealer and whatever garbage price they give you for the 788s