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      05-09-2018, 02:29 PM   #89
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So they will start taking orders after the 15th?
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C&D picked the RS3 for the top ten list over the TTRS for a few reasons (including better weight distribution and more secure handling), and the TTRS does not have the staggered setup either.
You're not going to find transverse mounted engines, front drive biased haldex awd, front heavy front wheel drive based sedans in any serious competition for lap times, except straight lines. Don't believe the hype.

You're going to find a lesser powered, rwd car is faster for a reason.




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Why is this Canadian pricing thread getting shitted up with an rs3 debate
Because this is a legitimate debate for someone in the real world, in Canada, when the RS3 is 10k cheaper than M2C.


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You're not going to find transverse mounted engines, front drive biased haldex awd, front heavy front wheel drive based sedans in any serious competition for lap times, except straight lines. Don't believe the hype.

You're going to find a lesser powered, rwd car is faster for a reason.


I'm glad you posted that second video, I thought about posting it earlier. On equal tires, or with the sedan version which has a lower CG and a wider track, well, you can figure out the rest. That's the only video in here someone has actually posted of the new car.
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Seems pretty fair given that every meaningful "option" is standard.
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Today I learned Canadians really like the RS3.
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      05-09-2018, 03:29 PM   #95
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Today I learned Canadians really like the RS3.
We also really like the M2. After all I cross shopped both and have an M2 incoming so that goes to show that I like the M2 better but that doesn't mean I didn't like the RS3 (quite the opposite actually). I've never been a brand guy so I don't typically feel the need to denounce good cars that are maybe direct competitors to what I drive. There's a little debate to be had regarding the value of the M2C given it's crossing into M4 territory up here.
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Did a conservative build, what I consider just the must-have Cayman S options...93k. I left off numerous options I would like.
Wow, you and I have a totally different description of conservative.
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Does that 9% include CF roof & trunk
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It was being discussed in the thread where you got the pdf link.


https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1493966
no one cares bro

Put it under the proper sub forum next time

EDIT: Ok I just realized someone edited my original post as I recall not posting this so late in the day and had a way smaller snippet
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Wow, you and I have a totally different description of conservative.
93k Canadian converts to US$ 72.3k
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Back to pricing. That is a big jump.
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no one cares bro

Put it under the proper sub forum next time

EDIT: Ok I just realized someone edited my original post as I recall not posting this so late in the day and had a way smaller snippet
You mentioned if it was being discussed elsewhere. It was. The link was to my google drive. All good though. Yeah I posted in pricing since, you can't buy the M2 anymore. Figured it was a good spot?
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As I was waiting for my M2 to arrive, I test drove the RS3 (new version) with the wife as she was looking for a new car. It was fast in a straight line. Car was horribly fake sounding (assuming they have some same crap version of ASD). Digital dash was just a distraction. Cornering was ..."meh" (body roll, understeer)...and...it smelled funny (that may have been the sales guy in the back - either bad cologne or he crapped himself when I almost had us up on two wheels - not sure which) In the end the wife went with a new GTI. Reason... No MT in the RS3. That's my girl.
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As I was waiting for my M2 to arrive, I test drove the RS3 (new version) with the wife as she was looking for a new car. It was fast in a straight line. Car was horribly fake sounding (assuming they have some same crap version of ASD). Digital dash was just a distraction. Cornering was ..."meh" (body roll, understeer)...and...it smelled funny (that may have been the sales guy in the back - either bad cologne or he crapped himself when I almost had us up on two wheels - not sure which) In the end the wife went with a new GTI. Reason... No MT in the RS3. That's my girl.
It doesn't have any ASD, or a soundaktor, so I'm not sure what you are on about. The TTRS does though.

Also an RS3 understeered badly with lots of body roll, but buys GTI. Sounds legit.
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Back to pricing. That is a big jump.
Its a big jump, but you also get LED's standard, new forged wheels standard, sport seats standard, brake option standard, and much more that wasnt included on the old M2,

markets where the MSRP doesnt go up, will just have those features as optional with extra cost.
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Wow, you and I have a totally different description of conservative.
That is built on the Canada site(93k), since the member from Canada said you can get a Cayman S for 75k. It starts at 78k. On US site, the same car is 82k. Still not the spec I would like.

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As someone who was looking forward to the standard seats from the current M2.. I'm hoping US models will be able to have the base seats at a lower base price and the seats will be an option .. same with the new wheels vs. the 437M. For those that have been in the game much longer than I, which one is more likely.. us following the European pricing and options list or seeing something like this with the upgraded "standard" features?
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That is built on the Canada site(93k), since the member from Canada said you can get a Cayman S for 75k. It starts at 78k. On US site, the same car is 82k. Still not the spec I would like.

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At 75k though you can just about get a Cayman S if that stuff is your main concern.
However I understand Porsches typically end up being way more than base price. I think to make a fair comparison you have to include the stuff on the Porsche that you would get on the BMW, if you start adding 15k in options that aren't even available on the M2C, it's not a fair comparison.
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Back to pricing. That is a big jump.
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Its a big jump, but you also get LED's standard, new forged wheels standard, sport seats standard, brake option standard, and much more that wasnt included on the old M2,

markets where the MSRP doesnt go up, will just have those features as optional with extra cost.
CarPlay is also now standard for CAN. Big take away here is a fully loaded M2C is thousands less expensive than a no option stripper M3 or M4. Very few people thought that was going to be the case.
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That is built on the Canada site(93k), since the member from Canada said you can get a Cayman S for 75k. It starts at 78k. On US site, the same car is 82k. Still not the spec I would like.

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At 75k though you can just about get a Cayman S if that stuff is your main concern.
However I understand Porsches typically end up being way more than base price. I think to make a fair comparison you have to include the stuff on the Porsche that you would get on the BMW, if you start adding 15k in options that aren't even available on the M2C, it's not a fair comparison.
I was going to say. Nobody gets a Porsche at bare bones pricing. There are extra options on the Cayman that really aren't options. You're more or less forced to buy them.
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Two things I noticed that seem odd.

Aside from the tire size that's already been mentioned, the 437M wheels say they come with "Perf. Non-RFT" while the 788M wheels just say "Perf.Tires".

Harmon Kardon which was once standard is now a $1k option. Weird.
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