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      07-13-2018, 01:58 PM   #1
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Tacho Warm Up Lights for S55?

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On my wife's F80 the tacho has warm up lights, i.e., yellow and red lights that artificially lower the redline of the engine until the engine is warm. I love these things. However, from what I can tell the new M2C doesn't have a similar setup. I know that the new gauges are digital-like, but can we confirm that there is no similar functionality in the tacho on the M2C?
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My turn for a likely (almost certainly) obvious/stupid question.

On my wife's F80 the tacho has warm up lights, i.e., yellow and red lights that artificially lower the redline of the engine until the engine is warm. I love these things. However, from what I can tell the new M2C doesn't have a similar setup. I know that the new gauges are digital-like, but can we confirm that there is no similar functionality in the tacho on the M2C?
As far as I know, the digital cluster is the same as in the M2 LCI, so, it won't have it.
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My turn for a likely (almost certainly) obvious/stupid question.

On my wife's F80 the tacho has warm up lights, i.e., yellow and red lights that artificially lower the redline of the engine until the engine is warm. I love these things. However, from what I can tell the new M2C doesn't have a similar setup. I know that the new gauges are digital-like, but can we confirm that there is no similar functionality in the tacho on the M2C?
As far as I know, the digital cluster is the same as in the M2 LCI, so, it won't have it.
Yep, that's what I figured. That's a bummer, that's one thing about M that I have always liked, which is protecting that engine. Surprised too given that it's the same engine as in the F80 but then again not surprised that they didn't redo a whole system just for that for a car that will be sold only for 1-3 years.
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Yep, that's what I figured. That's a bummer, that's one thing about M that I have always liked, which is protecting that engine. Surprised too given that it's the same engine as in the F80 but then again not surprised that they didn't redo a whole system just for that for a car that will be sold only for 1-3 years.
My car gets babied until at least 190 oil temp. Then no speed racer before 220.
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Yep, that's what I figured. That's a bummer, that's one thing about M that I have always liked, which is protecting that engine. Surprised too given that it's the same engine as in the F80 but then again not surprised that they didn't redo a whole system just for that for a car that will be sold only for 1-3 years.
They are just getting lazy. The Z4M had it. It's probably not as critical with the turbo engines as it was with S54, S65, and S85 though. The S55 has no known bearing issues.
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Yep, that's what I figured. That's a bummer, that's one thing about M that I have always liked, which is protecting that engine. Surprised too given that it's the same engine as in the F80 but then again not surprised that they didn't redo a whole system just for that for a car that will be sold only for 1-3 years.
They are just getting lazy. The Z4M had it. It's probably not as critical with the turbo engines as it was with S54, S65, and S85 though. The S55 has no known bearing issues.
Yeah true, the S55 has just had spun crank hub issues (which hopefully get resolved for the M2C)
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Yeah true, the S55 has just had spun crank hub issues (which hopefully get resolved for the M2C)
I thought that was resolved years ago?
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Yeah true, the S55 has just had spun crank hub issues (which hopefully get resolved for the M2C)
I thought that was resolved years ago?
Doesn't look like it... go troll the F80 forums. There have been a few 2017s and 2018s. Some were tuned though, others weren't.

Quantifiable Spun Crank Hub Data? Choose your year and tune status. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1507092
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Doesn't look like it... go troll the F80 forums. There have been a few 2017s and 2018s. Some were tuned though, others weren't.

Quantifiable Spun Crank Hub Data? Choose your year and tune status. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1507092
I just read that thread, thanks. What I got from it is that 6spd and non-tune is pretty much no problem with the newer models. There was one guy that did a CS flash tune that had the problem which bothers me a bit since I was interested in that tune.
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BMW left out few things on purpose for the next generation, so they can claim it as a real M car, lol.

Fixed in M2C - M engine, M mirrors, M wheel buttons, optional accessory carbon parts, M seats

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Yeah true, the S55 has just had spun crank hub issues (which hopefully get resolved for the M2C)
Either way, if you check other forums you'll see that the S55 failure rate is tiny in comparison to the S65 and S85 failure rates. There are very few spun crank hubs on stock cars.
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Yeah true, the S55 has just had spun crank hub issues (which hopefully get resolved for the M2C)
Either way, if you check other forums you'll see that the S55 failure rate is tiny in comparison to the S65 and S85 failure rates. There are very few spun crank hubs on stock cars.
Never implied that they were equal to or higher. Just said that it's the only problem I know of.
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So I noticed on the video below at about 1:30 that there is a message that says full drive power available shortly. Wonder if the car pulls power or RPMs until the car warms up? Perhaps someone can shed some light on this.

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Yep, that's what I figured. That's a bummer, that's one thing about M that I have always liked, which is protecting that engine. Surprised too given that it's the same engine as in the F80 but then again not surprised that they didn't redo a whole system just for that for a car that will be sold only for 1-3 years.
My car gets babied until at least 190 oil temp. Then no speed racer before 220.
What I've been wondering is if the car is better protected running it in comfort mode because in sport or sport+ the engine oil never goes above 95-100C no matter how hard I run it :
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BMW left out few things on purpose for the next generation, so they can claim it as a real M car, lol.

Fixed in M2C - M engine, M mirrors, M wheel buttons, optional accessory carbon parts, M seats

Still missing - tach lights, lights on shifter, adjustable suspension, factory built carbon parts, merino leather
Are you saying the manual shift knob in the M2C isnít illuminated?
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Are you saying the manual shift knob in the M2C isnít illuminated?
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Mine is almost done being built, but if it doesnít have the illuminated knob, I just may have to cancel it
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My car gets babied until at least 190 oil temp. Then no speed racer before 220.
Well thats a bit extreme. No oil is improving over 180, OEM's run 200+ oil temps as the oil is thinner and it makes for a marginal improvement in fuel economy and also they can boil off any condensation 100% on vehicles that don't get driven hard. But from a performance and protection point of view you've already started to head the over the top of the curve by 190F.

160F is a completely safe temp to start getting into it, but not before that I agree.

Most external oil thermostats are set to 185, that's considered the golden point.
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