[Poochie]

Originally Posted by LBbluem2

The 6mt helps me restrain myself a bit I think.

So true; with a manual, you're contented with just play through the gears, at brisk but reasonable speeds..

A ZF8/DCT, you just want to bury the pedal and blast off, into an oblivion, until you hit the governor..

It's one of those thing you have to experience to understand what I'm saying..

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by Poochie

So true; with a manual, you're contented with just play through the gears, at brisk but reasonable speeds..

A ZF8/DCT, you just want to bury the pedal and blast off, into an oblivion, until you hit the governor..

It's one of those thing you have to experience to understand what I'm saying..

That's why I track my cars on occasion, to hopefully avoid that temptation on public roads. The back straight at Virginia International Raceway is > 1/2 mile long with some uphill. After the hairpin at Oak Tree at 40 mph, it's foot to the floor redlining each gear. I hit over 140 mph in the M2C and 156 on the HUD in an F10 M5. Brakes had better work because there's an upcoming 45 mph right hander and a big downhill grass field if you miss it....

My review of the M2C at VIR with video, popped up recently and is just below....

[akkando]

Originally Posted by baege

so I just had the break in service completed and have now been able to fully experience the car and holy cow!

did my first full throttle on ramp yesterday and wow this thing pulls

I get what they say about m engines even more now, the s55 just has this eager loves to rev character that draws you in (so why is the redline so hard to see )

I have done the same ramps with my 2016 cayman S and while the s55 doesn't sound as good, it does have a similar motorsports engine feel to it, and it is definitely quicker

compared to the b58 in my m240i the s55 just feels much more race car and visceral than the b58 which feels kind of synthetic

my love for this car has gone next level now and I look forward to the next drive even more

what a car!

hmm, it's probably interesting comparing the 240i to the m2c

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Yea, I never mention it but it's always in the back of my mind; if I get a faster car, I'll end up hurt or in jail.

I just can't help myself; I just get a rush, like I'm on drugs, when the M2 pedal is touching the floor..

I hear you Vin Diesel

Don't buy an e9X m3 then that's for sure. At least with these smaller turbo cars there's fun to be had in the low to mid rev range feeling the torque.

You think you're going to trade up to the m2c?

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by akkando

Don't buy an e9X m3 then that's for sure. At least with these smaller turbo cars there's fun to be had in the low to mid rev range feeling the torque.

You think you're going to trade up to the m2c?

Nah, there is honestly nothing I feel that's lacking in my current vehicle, I can still get it in, so at this juncture, a M2C would merely be a lateral upgrade.

I'm going to hold off and see what they have to offer with the G87, in terms of features.

If they don't royally F that one up, I'm' jumping into one of those, for sure..

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Nah, there is honestly nothing I feel that's lacking in my current vehicle, I can still get it in, so at this juncture, a M2C would merely be a lateral upgrade.

I'm going to hold off and see what they have to offer with the G87, in terms of features.

If they don't royally F that one up, I'm' jumping into one of those, for sure..

I dont see a pressing need to jump from OG to C. But I do hope you are one of the first G87 owners so we can live through you (or not)

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

I dont see a pressing need to jump from OG to C. But I do hope you are one of the first G87 owners so we can live through you (or not)

I'll wait until the hype dies down; when the original M2 came out, it was a mess to even see, in the flesh and the dealers play so many mind games because they knew it was hot commodity.. It was disgusting, I wasted a lot of time and homie don't play that - but that's another story..

I'll see how it goes, when that times comes but I'm certainly getting a G-Generation of whatever it they offer in a two door, RWD, manual coupe.. But I'm good right now, so I'll take it as it comes..

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I'll wait until the hype dies down; when the original M2 came out, it was a mess to even see, in the flesh and the dealers play so many mind games because they knew it was hot commodity.. It was disgusting, I wasted a lot of time and homie don't play that - but that's another story..

I'll see how it goes, when that times comes but I'm certainly getting a G-Generation of whatever it they offer in a two door, RWD, manual coupe.. But I'm good right now, so I'll take it as it comes..

I agree, I usually stay away from the 1st year builds anyway. Let the hype die and let the kinks get worked out. Yeah, and I dont pay MSRP (or more) for cars...

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Poochie

So true; with a manual, you're contented with just play through the gears, at brisk but reasonable speeds..

A ZF8/DCT, you just want to bury the pedal and blast off, into an oblivion, until you hit the governor..

It's one of those thing you have to experience to understand what I'm saying..

These are exactly my thoughts too.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

This is exactly my thoughts too.

100% my manual is the top reason I haven't gotten more tickets or done something stupid enough to kill myself.

For example, I am thinking of a 911 next and I go back and forth on PDK vs a 7MT. I really want and love the PDK as it's damn near telepathic and a phenomenal gear box, however, I know it would just get me in trouble where the 7MT (while slower) would allow me to enjoy the car by playing through the gears at reasonable apeeds

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

100% my manual is the top reason I haven't gotten more tickets or done something stupid enough to kill myself.

For example, I am thinking of a 911 next and I go back and forth on PDK vs a 7MT. I really want and love the PDK as it's damn near telepathic and a phenomenal gear box, however, I know it would just get me in trouble where the 7MT (while slower) would allow me to enjoy the car by playing through the gears at reasonable apeeds

Exactly, gives you something to do while going acceptable speed limits. When I was on my test drive, I would constantly play around with the gears and got great enjoyment out of it. In a DCT or PDK, you just get the thrill of speed, nothing wrong with that.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

Exactly, gives you something to do while going acceptable speed limits. When I was on my test drive, I would constantly play around with the gears and got great enjoyment out of it. In a DCT or PDK, you just get the thrill of speed, nothing wrong with that.

It's a shame that the thing I love on the track is the same thing that prevents me from enjoying my M2 as much as I should on the street.

I suppose one could feel the same in the opposite situation.. Verdict is I need 3 cars

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by PLF69

It's a shame that the thing I love on the track is the same thing that prevents me from enjoying my M2 as much as I should on the street.

I suppose one could feel the same in the opposite situation.. Verdict is I need 3 cars

Exactly! You're now enlightened

[MThree_Forty]

Interestingly, here is a heavily modified M2 Competition that was reviewed by Evolve Automotive. Considering this color in 3M 2080 Vinyl Wrap. Haven't decided though, as I do like the HS color a lot, as well.

Forgive the geometric distortion in the photos. It was obviously taken with a very wide angle lens.

[MKParris]

Originally Posted by Zero260in3

Interestingly, here is a heavily modified M2 Competition that was reviewed by Evolve Automotive. Considering this color in 3M 2080 Vinyl Wrap. Haven't decided though, as I do like the HS color a lot, as well.

Forgive the geometric distortion in the photos. It was obviously taken with a very wide angle lens.

I could go for that sans the wing.

[TheKoz]

Couldn't agree more. I picked up my new 2020 M2C on June 26 in Black Sapphire Metallic, Standard, Black Rims, HK, Sunroof and Blue Stitching. 1800 kms later it's been pure bliss This is the only sports car that I have ever been in love with and I have driven many fine cars...none compares. This is my 3rd BMW; 2008 335XI, 2017 340i wt. 2 M pkgs. It is just so perfectly balanced and sucks up hills, corners effortlessly and the road feel is incredible! Dampeners do an amazing job on rough terrain. Tons of smooth power delivery, comfortable seats and enough creature comforts to make it an ideal Summer business car. Am choosing to not drive it once salt hits the road, but to preserve it as I believe it will be a collector car 5-10 years down the road. It is a unicorn and will be replaced with X drive in 2022. Does anyone know what the 2021 M Performance Exhaust option is?https://www.bmwmontrealcentre.ca/bui...c&step=options

[Ratcher]

Originally Posted by TheKoz

It is a unicorn and will be replaced with X drive in 2022. Does anyone know what the 2021 M Performance Exhaust option is?

1 - It won't be replaced by X drive. You'll be able to enjoy RWD from 2023 onwards
2 - Is that a new factory option in the States? Highly doubt that.

[TheKoz]

Yes got it from a BMW GM.

1) Europe will stop production end of this calendar year 2020 for rear drive, standard M2C, due to their more stringent pollution controls.

2) 2022 production year is moving to xdrive only and the new ugly trim/kidney grills that you now find in the 2020 M340i. Didn't ask about standard, but expect that to disappear too. The sales pitch on xdrive is that you can switch it to 100% rear for drifting etc., which is interesting, but the '22 M2C will add more weight with 2nd differential and transaxle. It will never be the same IMHO...

3) The 2021 M2C adds an option (see link above) for $5900 CAD to add an M Performance exhaust. I am validating that today with my dealer. Service advisor thinks that is would be an in port option, so may consider adding it to mine...TBD

[Ratcher]

Originally Posted by TheKoz

Yes got it from a BMW GM.

1) Europe will stop production end of this calendar year 2020 for rear drive, standard M2C, due to their more stringent pollution controls.

2) 2022 production year is moving to xdrive only and the new ugly trim/kidney grills that you now find in the 2020 M340i. Didn't ask about standard, but expect that to disappear too. The sales pitch on xdrive is that you can switch it to 100% rear for drifting etc., which is interesting, but the '22 M2C will add more weight with 2nd differential and transaxle. It will never be the same IMHO...

3) The 2021 M2C adds an option (see link above) for $5900 CAD to add an M Performance exhaust. I am validating that today with my dealer. Service advisor thinks that is would be an in port option, so may consider adding it to mine...TBD

No. End of 2022 G87 will be a RWD.
Production for Europe is stopping in October, will go on for the rest of the world until 2021, though.

The exhaust is a port option.

Don't believe everything your salesman tells you.

[JCZ5]

Also, the MP exhaust has been around for awhile now. Nothing new to the MY.

[JustinHEMI]

Just drove Pittsburgh to Virginia to drive back of the dragon tomorrow. Shit eating grin the whole way. Had some play time with a 5.7 charger and a couple mouthy SUVs.

I still can't get over how much I love this car compared to may Challenger. Totally unexpected.

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

In a DCT or PDK, you just get the thrill of speed, nothing wrong with that.

JC

Love you brother, but simply not true . . . PDK/DCT manual mode gives you every bit the control of the gear box as a MT. . . plus you get to power shift!!

///AVM