[Franzino]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

There's rumor on good authority that there will be another special F87 after the CS. Uncertain if it's a CSL.

Personally I don't think there is going to be a model above the M2 CS...and if they do make a M2 that is mostly track orientated...why would it be called M2 CSL and not M2 GTS like the M4 GTS? When you look at the details of the M3 CSL, I'm under the impression the M2 CS is going to be a modern interpretation of this car. Ok not the same weight loss like a CSL, but more track focused without being so stripped out like a GT(with roll cage and fixed bucket seats). In my opinion the CS name is now the modern interpretation of the CSL name (without the big weight loss). Personally I don't think we are going to see the CSL name back anytime soon...but would be awesome if they did

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Franzino

Personally I don't think there is going to be a model above the M2 CS...and if they do make a M2 that is mostly track orientated...why would it be called M2 CSL and not M2 GTS like the M4 GTS? When you look at the details of the M3 CSL, I'm under the impression the M2 CS is going to be a modern interpretation of this car. Ok not the same weight loss like a CSL, but more track focused without being so stripped out like a GT(with roll cage and fixed bucket seats). In my opinion the CS name is now the modern interpretation of the CSL name (without the big weight loss). Personally I don't think we are going to see the CSL name back anytime soon...but would be awesome if they did

The GTS vs CSL was sorted a while ago by BMW. The production version is usually very similar to what we see on the test mules. My concern is that we still see two variations of test mule. One with the features I want, and one that leaves me wanting. We will know what is what by Wednesday.

I believe it is misguided for BMW to swap GTS with CSL. I believe that the latter should maintain its intended function at the compromise of comfort. I.e. a carbon fiber insert for rear seats, but no cage that deletes the seats.

[GoneIn4Secs]

There will be no more GTS

Only cs and csl above that

[arciga18]

My son turns 5 on Tuesday.

Hopefully Artemis and others have some good info to share with the birthday boy .

The +7 hour time difference also helps the excitement .

[Champagne_Reign]

Originally Posted by dgm3

Got an invitation to preview the latest M model.
Advertised as a very limited edition, featuring light carbon fiber, unique interior and equipments inspired by racing. Preview second half of September (in Brussels), claimed to be 6 months before the official launch.

What else could it be than the M2 CS ?

More info on the event by moderator Artemis:

M4 CS convertible

[Hegge]

M4 CS convertible? You're joking right?

[Woots]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.t...car-twin%3famp

Similar to what we’ve expected here then...?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Champagne_Reign

M4 CS convertible

M2 CS.

Degree of certainty: 100%.

[Woots]

Originally Posted by Artemis

M2 CS.

Degree of certainty: 100%.

Come on Artemis...tell me it’s going to be a CSL...will we ever see an ‘L’ again...
Given that the M2 has similar residuals to an M4...can we expect the M2 CS to suffer similar fate to M4 CS

Perhaps rhetorical questions here...but the chat is good nonetheless

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Woots

Come on Artemis...tell me it’s going to be a CSL...will we ever see an ‘L’ again...
Given that the M2 has similar residuals to an M4...can we expect the M2 CS to suffer similar fate to M4 CS
Perhaps rhetorical questions here...but the chat is good nonetheless

For years, speculation has been going on about the M2 CS, despite none of us having seen one up close in real life (including yours truly).

But, as the proverb goes, to see you rather need vision than eyes. Try to spot relevant dots and fathom the bigger picture.

Tomorrow I got 'a date with an M2 CS'. An encounter with a very familiar face.

[Woots]

Originally Posted by Artemis

For years, speculation has been going on about the M2 CS, despite none of us having seen one up close in real life (including yours truly).

But, as the proverb goes, to see you rather need vision than eyes. Try to spot relevant dots and fathom the bigger picture.

Tomorrow I got 'a date with an M2 CS'. An encounter with a very familiar face.

Have you already decided how you’ll describe what you see? A checklist of what it’s got or not? An essay? I hope it’s in misanl blue I want to figure out how that’ll look with the black carbon trinkets

[MDuckie]

Originally Posted by Artemis

For years, speculation has been going on about the M2 CS, despite none of us having seen one up close in real life (including yours truly).

But, as the proverb goes, to see you rather need vision than eyes. Try to spot relevant dots and fathom the bigger picture.

Tomorrow I got 'a date with an M2 CS'. An encounter with a very familiar face.

Do we know how much information and in what form the information can be shared?

Any NDA of any sort? Pictures? Verbal explanation?

[arciga18]

Originally Posted by MDuckie

Do we know how much information and in what form the information can be shared?

Any NDA of any sort? Pictures? Verbal explanation?

I say no photography / video.

I am sure Artemis will take great notes

[Tornado1M]

We need to get a Live Blog going for this event 😁😁😁

Is that possible on this site???

Also, what time here in the East Coast does this thing get going?

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by Tornado1M

We need to get a Live Blog going for this event 😁😁😁

Is that possible on this site???

Also, what time here in the East Coast does this thing get going?

Probably 1pm or 2pm Eastern time since Brussels is 6 hours ahead.

[arciga18]

I wouldn't mind random twitter updates.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Woots

Have you already decided how you’ll describe what you see? A checklist of what it’s got or not? An essay?

Methodological, kind of (read: bullet points galore).

Originally Posted by MDuckie

Do we know how much information and in what form the information can be shared?
Any NDA of any sort? Pictures? Verbal explanation?

Originally Posted by arciga18

I say no photography / video.
I am sure Artemis will take great notes

For sure no pictures inside the 'discovery room' (and I will strictly observe that instruction). Hopefully no NDA.

Back in 2017 I was invited to a BMW M event. Little did I know that there was a surprise: exclusive preview of the F90 M5. I did not follow 5-Series or F90 M5 development, so - unlike the M2 CS - had only very limited knowledge about the car. No pictures inside the 'discovery room', but no NDA. I respected that. Later that night: https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1387666.

[medphysdave]

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/09/16/t...-racecar-twin/

Interesting if the model beyond the CS is the racecar

[Hegge]

I think so. The racecar is track only so not for the street.

[Bimmed Out]

Originally Posted by Woots

Given that the M2 has similar residuals to an M4...can we expect the M2 CS to suffer similar fate to M4 CS

Highly unlikely given the fact that the M2 CS is the only CS offered with 6MT, not to mention the fact that all dealerships reportedly have long waitlists, some of which were started years ago.

[lax01]

Subscribing!

[chris719]

Originally Posted by kepler

Highly unlikely given the fact that the M2 CS is the only CS offered with 6MT, not to mention the fact that all dealerships reportedly have long waitlists, some of which were started years ago.

It is all based on the price. The M4 CS would sell quickly if it were priced right. Almost all the people on the wait lists will disappear if they announce it at $85k or something like that. Most buyers aren't stupid, they won't pay more for very little of substance.