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Hey! Unfortunately I did not grab any logs during the session, which was an oversight on my end. That said, I have been monitoring my LPFP over the course of the tuning process and have yet to see a drop in pressure. Still, will be upgrading it soon to have peace of mind and some overhead. As for the turbo size, I honestly have no idea so I apologize. I would assume its similar to a PS2 in terms of compressor and turbine wheel sizing though. I was tuned by Cary Jordan and below is a full mod list for reference.
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You can get a canbus integrated controller that has an aux input for an LPFP sensor.
So for BM3 that would be their new flexray integration board - still not available for F series yet. Then you would use their custom rom v2 to pick up the new sensor address and it would display that in the guages or in data logs. For MHD the same principle as above but with motive reflex. For ecutek, it would again be the same principles above with motive reflex.
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M2MANDU Awesome stuff man! Do you think you could get us a 3rd or 4th gear WOT log? I'm curious to see how your boost curve is setup!
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Probably because it's a tune from Cary Jordan.
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Lots of sizing questions. Photo shows wheel sizes from Pure on their three newest turbos.
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These results are awesome. however, im confused on how compared to any other hybrid/big turbo setup this car is almost hitting 600whp. This pure600 isnt the largest turbo around and its doing this on reasonable boost of around 22psi and baby timing still in the single digits. i just dont get why its doing it so effortlessly compared to even a pure750 at these boost/timing levels.
A pure 750 on this boost/timing hasn't made this power either. Hell, even a 6 into 1 manifold g30-770 full frame hasn't on 22psi with this baby timing on any motor. considering, its also on e60 and the log shows 9.5 degrees of timing which is no where near MBT. We know there is more to still gain, what is the hypothetical power this turbo will make if we just upped it to 15 degrees? more than a p750 has ever made on 30ish psi? not adding up. Last edited by Nathank234; 10-09-2024 at 02:54 AM.. |
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further comment on this, is this done on a factory catback exhaust? now another bottleneck obviously is that there is still a 200cell that can restrict power. On a factory M2 catback you will notice around the flex pipe it neck downs to a tiny 2.5 inch ish exhaust causing a major restriction. typically, you would want a single 3.5 at this power or twin 2.5 exhaust. All these areas are still untouched which still rings alarm bells to me for this power level and lack of effort from this turbo
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Well we can’t say less boost when the post states that the boost was 24 psi tapering down to 22 psi just like the log shows
Since I love data and comparison, here’s something about the previous topic of pure600 and ‘dyno claims’ Pure600 (58/55mm size) 586whp 22psi (at peak power on dyno) 9.5 degrees timing (at peak) Log: https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=66e1f80a2169b7682e629d24 Pure750 (62/62mm size) 645whp 29psi (at peak power on dyno) 15 degree timing (peak power) Log: https://bootmod3.net/log?id=650c76e2ae729b2d3b96afb4 Figure out what makes these only 60whp apart |
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Hi everyone, just dropping some more info. The log I posted was the tune I used on the dyno. Additionally, I am running an MPE. I really wish I took some logs during the dyno session, so I really do apologize for that oversight. That said, maybe it was because there was just more load in 5th gear on the dyno. I've only ever logged in 3rd gear on the street, so anything past that is really unknown to me.
That said, I just wanted to provide some insight. I can try and grab some 4th or 5th gear logs, I just need to find the time and space. Trust me, I had a hard time believing the numbers as well as I was only shooting for 500whp. But that's just what it showed after my session and I was just happy to be able to drive my car back home. That said, I do really like the turbo. More importantly, its just made the car much more enjoyable to drive. |
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Okay I do appreciate all these extra details and thank you for providing all this data. A higher gear log will be awesome cause then we can see what it actually boosts to when the load request and target actually meet. The power is impressive nonetheless, it just would’ve done it at a higher boost on the dyno. Still again impressive for low timing. Thanks for your support
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its why in hotter weather a load based tune will request higher load to make up for the lost power from the additional heat. in colder weather, an engine is more efficient so it will lower boost to meet the requested load. it will technically try and aim for the torque (power is derived from torque) that is requested. however, when we go to a larger turbo, then spool becomes an issue where the tune will request a certain load but the turbo is too large to even get to the PSI that the tune requires in too low of a gear. its like trying to hit full boost in first gear, it will never happen. in this 3rd gear log before the dyno, when the car does meet the requested load, it made 24psi. however, if the car met the requested load (torque) all the way to redline like the tune is requesting, it will actually require more boost than at the lower rpm as its harder for torque to maintain to redline. my best guess is the tune is actually over 24psi on the higher gears. but, this is just my best educated guess and im always happy for more information to be provided by others where we can discuss this further |
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