[detroitm2]

This was a bit random. I was doing some turbo research, and a thread from a couple months ago was talking about pure teasing a new turbo option for N55.

I decided to check their instagram, and found this, posted 1 minute ago:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJto-SMJhaw

Excerpt from above:

We are proud to offer a sneak peek at
The N55 Pure 800 !

The N55 P800 is a new turbocharger designed by Pure, to offer N55 enthusiasts 800+HP of capacity, in a direct bolt in package for N55 PWG and EWG cars.

-No core charge.
-Direct bolt in fit.
-In house designed, not a stock turbo replica like other options.
-Compressor housing – 0.70 A/R
-Turbine housing – 0.80 A/R
-Wastegate flow capacity greatly increased for precise boost control
-Ball bearing and journal bearing options.
-PWG cars will require a special DP supplied by ER.
-PWG configuration is compatible with our HD N55 Actuator or pressure based actuators for high boost applications.
-EWG configuration works with the OE E-actuator or pressure based actuator

We do expect it to fit RHD and AWD cars, though we have not physically test fitted yet. Current test car is a 135i DCT.

This is one of many new casted turbochargers coming soon from Pure Turbos Inc. We will soon follow with dyno testing results, datalogs, more pics, pricing, etc.

Shown in the pics, is a 67mm sized turbo, PWG configuration, with our HD Actuator. The kit will include the compressor inlet hose, as well as compressor discharge hose.

Thank you to all our supporters!
We could not do this without you!

MORE INFORMATION ON PRICING AND RELEASE DATE COMING SOON!!

[SebsM2]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

This was a bit random. I was doing some turbo research, and a thread from a couple months ago was talking about pure teasing a new turbo option for N55.

I decided to check their instagram, and found this, posted 1 minute ago:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJto-SMJhaw

Excerpt from above:

I was just talking to nothingman and Ken at wedge performance about this new kit. You should add this comment to nothingmans turbo upgrade thread.

[3t3p]

Holy shit I thought N55 tapped out at 600hp haha

[-Eidos]

Originally Posted by 3t3p

Holy shit I thought N55 tapped out at 600hp haha

800HP seems like crank numbers so 700WHP sounds about right.

The N55-B30T0 in our M2's are beefy. 650-700WHP is about as far as you can probably comfortably push the motor as a daily before you have to build the motor.

600+ will require a stage 3 HPFP/DI set-up or a custom port-injection/water-meth injection set-up on a conservative tune. So someone on just a stage 2 HPFP right now won't get the most out of this bigger turbo set-up. You can come close by running race gas on the stage 2 HPFPs, but that's expensive if you want a super juiced up daily.

Besides fueling, you may also need an upgraded clutch unless you limit torque, which is just a tease. The need for ancillary upgrades after a stage 2 turbo quickly snowballs.

I'm curious how this spools compares to their Stage 2 turbo.

[F87source]

Great to see more options!

Now time to create S55 dual HPFP setups with aftermarket pumps to support all this power.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by F87source

Great to see more options!

Now time to create S55 dual HPFP setups with aftermarket pumps to support all this power.

Doesn't spool have something for that?

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by SebsM2

I was just talking to nothingman and Ken at wedge performance about this new kit. You should add this comment to nothingmans turbo upgrade thread.

Probably wait till we get more data. Love to see some real numbers.

[-Eidos]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Doesn't spool have something for that?

I believe TTFS does. $5K, but not much data or user experience on it online. Would need a custom tune for sure.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by -Eidos

I believe TTFS does. $5K, but not much data or user experience on it online. Would need a custom tune for sure.

Yeah, that's what it was. I remember seeing something about it when I was researching HPFP

[F87source]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Doesn't spool have something for that?

S55 upgrades yes, but no dual pump retrofits. That's ttfs.

[MTWO]

Great option it seems, looking forward to seeing results

[mike@x-ph.com]

[MONSTAR]

Looks like there are already videos on it from a few months back..

[SebsM2]

Originally Posted by MONSTAR

Looks like there are already videos on it from a few months back..

The pure 800 is not new in general. They just didn't have a pure 800 for the n55. The vids you linked are for other engines or a different pure turbo.

[detroitm2]

I think we all know that getting this turbo and cranking the tune up to 11 on stock internals will likely result in a bad day.

What I'm curious is, how well this turbo will perform with a modest tune.

Maybe someone with more turbo knowledge than myself can chime in.

For me, I'm looking for sub-600 WHP, that's reliable on track, and not have excessive turbo lag. Is this the magic bullet?

Additionally, does anyone wanna guess how much this thing will cost? The B58 version is around $2500 plus core. Being this this is a brand new (no core) turbo, I'm guessing we're looking at close to 4000.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

I think we all know that getting this turbo and cranking the tune up to 11 on stock internals will likely result in a bad day.

What I'm curious is, how well this turbo will perform with a modest tune.

Maybe someone with more turbo knowledge than myself can chime in.

For me, I'm looking for sub-600 WHP, that's reliable on track, and not have excessive turbo lag. Is this the magic bullet?

Additionally, does anyone wanna guess how much this thing will cost? The B58 version is around $2500 plus core. Being this this is a brand new (no core) turbo, I'm guessing we're looking at close to 4000.

It depends on the tuner, for example I had an evo x which was known to have brittle pasta rods. But when it was tuned properly I made around 500awhp without issue on the stock bottom end. It is all dependent on the quality of the tune, how you drive it (if you lug the engine), and the maintence. Remember a bigger turbo can flow more air making the same power as a smaller turbo with lower boost which is better for the engine.


In regards to this turbo you will probably get alot of lag.


For track reliability you're looking at cooling and not if the engine can hold up to huge power.


Yes I think it will be in the $4k range too, especially since no core deposit is required.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by F87source

It depends on the tuner, for example I had an evo x which was known to have brittle pasta rods. But when it was tuned properly I made around 500awhp without issue on the stock bottom end. It is all dependent on the quality of the tune, how you drive it (if you lug the engine), and the maintence. Remember a bigger turbo can flow more air making the same power as a smaller turbo with lower boost which is better for the engine.


In regards to this turbo you will probably get alot of lag.


For track reliability you're looking at cooling and not if the engine can hold up to huge power.


Yes I think it will be in the $4k range too, especially since no core deposit is required.

Thanks for the info. Pretty much what I suspected.

Still on the hunt for the perfect turbo for my usage. Not in any real rush, will probably wait till next winter anyways.

This year is the year of fueling mods

[F87source]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Thanks for the info. Pretty much what I suspected.

Still on the hunt for the perfect turbo for my usage. Not in any real rush, will probably wait till next winter anyways.

This year is the year of fueling mods

No problem!

Yes fuelling/supporting mods before power is an excellent idea and an idea I wish more people would do first before power mods.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by F87source

No problem!

Yes fuelling/supporting mods before power is an excellent idea and an idea I wish more people would do first before power mods.

Indeed. I have basically everything I need for a stage 2 turbo upgrade (at least by the end of the month I will.

Waiting on BM3 flex fuel, but do have plans of moving to Ecutek by the end of the year to support some additional mods that are not yet released.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Indeed. I have basically everything I need for a stage 2 turbo upgrade (at least by the end of the month I will.

Waiting on BM3 flex fuel, but do have plans of moving to Ecutek by the end of the year to support some additional mods that are not yet released.

Nice!

Care to share what these mods are?

[SebsM2]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

I think we all know that getting this turbo and cranking the tune up to 11 on stock internals will likely result in a bad day.

What I'm curious is, how well this turbo will perform with a modest tune.

Maybe someone with more turbo knowledge than myself can chime in.

For me, I'm looking for sub-600 WHP, that's reliable on track, and not have excessive turbo lag. Is this the magic bullet?

Additionally, does anyone wanna guess how much this thing will cost? The B58 version is around $2500 plus core. Being this this is a brand new (no core) turbo, I'm guessing we're looking at close to 4000.

Attached pure's reply about price. I asked them the day it was previewed so I'm sure they may be getting to reveal the price soon. My guess is the price for the lowest tier of the kit will be $3500. You'll probably be able to order a kit that costs upwards of $5500. Just a guess though


I agree with the above user about the turbo. I'm right where you are, or just a bit past you, when it comes to being ready for a bigger turbo. I've spoken to several of the m2 owners making big power and a few tuners now.

If you drive this on the street, you're going to want a faster spool than this turbo will most likely offer. I've been told that with e30 and a stage 2 turbo, you can make mid 500 whp.
That same forum member told me to consider the dinan turbo as it only made about 20 whp less than a ps2.

I've also spoken to one of the forum members who sold his car off in California. He had the AA dev car which had a big boost turbo 3.4 kit. He said it felt overpowered for the chassis and if he were in my shoes he'd want the car in the 500 whp range.

I'm with you on chasing big hp numbers but I think the best option is to grab a good stage 2 turbo and some meaty tires and enjoy our little beasts.

With all that said, installation cost is the same no matter which turbo you go with so you better make sure it's the best one for you!

[Daleb]

Interested in the pricing on this.

I’m not sure if they’ve revised the ps2 as they seem to be making pretty decent power. 540whp on e30 and another car making 570whp on e85.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJcsjFyJ...=1o1y0nay0lm5g