Ⓜ1 and Ⓜ2 buttons: what mode do you drive in? (COMFORT/EFF, SPORT & SPORT+)

Protatomonster · 11-22-2018, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by devo

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I know there's a way to make the traction control half on? If so how safe is this to drive with, I've never drifted or anything but I'm wondering if this would be a cool way to maybe get used to a safe slip from time to time.

I believe what you are looking for is DSC off ~ MDM off.

Sport+ deactivates DSC.

DSC deactivated will lessen vehicle stability.

MDM activated will lessen more so.

MDM will lessen the traction control? I thought with it on would be like slight traction control.

devo · 11-22-2018, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Protatomonster

MDM will lessen the traction control? I thought with it on would be like slight traction control.

I don't know what percentage of traction control may be on, however, traction control is reduced based on my interpretation. I have a chart someone else here posted a while back, just don't have time to find it at the moment.

All said in part from the manual: "When M Dynamic Mode is activated, stabilizing interventions are carried out only to a reduced extent..."

I do not believe there is a less intervening mode. DSC off, then MDM on, are the only choices to reduce intervention, yes?

akkando · 11-22-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

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Originally Posted by Protatomonster

MDM will lessen the traction control? I thought with it on would be like slight traction control.

I don't know what percentage of traction control may be on, however, traction control is reduced based on my interpretation. I have a chart someone else here posted a while back, just don't have time to find it at the moment.

All said in part from the manual: "When M Dynamic Mode is activated, stabilizing interventions are carried out only to a reduced extent..."

I do not believe there is a less intervening mode. DSC off, then MDM on, are the only choices to reduce intervention, yes?

I believe DSC off is everything off. It is on the n55 m2.

What he wants is MDM mode, nannies still on, but reduced intrusiveness.

devo · 11-22-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by akkando

I believe DSC off is everything off. It is on the n55 m2.

What he wants is MDM mode, nannies still on, but reduced intrusiveness.

You are probably correct. I assumed MDM was even less intrusive hence BMW built in the required confirmation once you choose MDM, whereas turning off DSC is an easier task. Seems backwards.

All said, I dislike the throttle mapping in MDM. It feels like running in Efficient mode.

Nkc · 11-22-2018, 07:06 PM

Comfort + Efficiency on the streets. Love it.
Full off / Sport+ / Paddles on track. Works well.

Lotus99 · 12-13-2018, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nkc

Comfort + Efficiency on the streets. Love it.
Full off / Sport+ / Paddles on track. Works well.

When have you taken your M2C to a track and which one?

doughboy · 12-13-2018, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by devo

You are probably correct. I assumed MDM was even less intrusive hence BMW built in the required confirmation once you choose MDM, whereas turning off DSC is an easier task. Seems backwards.

All said, I dislike the throttle mapping in MDM. It feels like running in Efficient mode.

MDM (1/2off) requires no confirmation, quick press of TC button.

DSC off (all off) requires long press of TC button.

Both require confirmation if activating via M1 or M2 program.

MDM doesn't change throttle map AFAIK it is s traction / stability setting.

Shekels · 12-13-2018, 05:37 AM

Efficient/Comfort on start up until warm. Also on motorway, although I prefer Sport steering at higher speed as its not so light.

Around town normally Sport+/Comfort, as I'm sad and want people to hear it pop.

doughboy · 12-13-2018, 05:42 AM

Sport/Sport

Sport plus throttle is too "boosty" for me, I prefer sport..

I'm glad the car defaults to sport steering, comfort steering is so light I think it's made for my 96 year old grandmother to use.

Even my wife says it feels like the steering column has broken!

Nkc · 12-13-2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus99

When have you taken your M2C to a track and which one?

Did the ring during ED and Area27 the day after I picked it up again from the dealer.

aerokubectl · 12-13-2018, 03:26 PM

M1 => Sport + / Comfort / MDM
M2 => Efficient / Comfort / TSC + DSC on

The steering in Sport and Sport + is way too heavy for me.
TSC is pretty scary when taking a turn at high speed, it kind of jerks the car back and forth, I thought I was gonna die lmao.

sobek305 · 12-13-2018, 04:12 PM

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Around town normally Sport+/Comfort, as I'm sad and want people to hear it pop.

This...times moar sadness

bri1042 · 12-13-2018, 05:40 PM

It depends on the situation. Take today on the way home, as an example. The Chrysler 200 driver next to me at the stop light was clearly feeling frisky. He was revving his mighty engine like you would not believe! Inching forward, just a bit at a time, until he was a foot past the white line. I knew this guy was serious. I mean, a Chrysler 200! He knows what he has.

The light changed. I thought, "maybe this time I can take him...", but I knew I'd met my match and, with my poor BMW in Sport/Comfort (to cover the point of this thread) I let him blow past me with all the thunder that 200 could muster.

Right past the cop that was sitting in clear view the whole time about 750 feet past intersection. I'm sure the cop complimented his driving skills and his mighty machine while giving him a ticket.

E21-myfirstlove · 12-13-2018, 07:15 PM

Steering always in comfort. Cant stand the other settings too 'heavy'. The engine between sport (mostly) and sport plus when the road is open.

buckybadger · 12-13-2018, 07:47 PM

Comfort is okay but not bad.

I love it in sport+ but sport is also acceptable and fun.

Yes it is heavy in the sport settings! That's why it is a BMW.

Lotus99 · 12-13-2018, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nkc

Did the ring during ED and Area27 the day after I picked it up again from the dealer.

No way, very cool. I was one of the first to ED it, AFAIK...

I posted about it here: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1517501

Damn, you didn't waste any time when you got back! Next season I'm hoping to go to Area 27 as part of some club's private day... Never done that track.

My dealer hasn't delivered another M2C yet. Which is yours?

Proctor750 · 12-14-2018, 09:20 AM

Full off, Sport + linked to M2 button immediately after startup. ABS is all that I'm comfortable with, don't like any of the other voodoo.

Got rid of the stupid mpg and shift suggestion junk as well.

Standard gearbox.

chmura · 12-14-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nomoracin

I have my M1 button programmed for Sport+ and comfort. I'm always in M1. Oh, and I've coded the exhaust flaps to always be open...with ASD disabled.

I thought exhaust flaps cannot be coded to stay open? Only with a flash tune.

Can anyone confirm this? Can it be coded with Bimmercode?

///M Houbi · 12-14-2018, 10:14 AM

No

nomoracin · 12-14-2018, 10:19 AM

I believe I used Bimmerlink.

(I paid for both Bimmercode and Bimmerlink...it's stupid that you can't use 1 for all your needs.)

FSU_Logan · 12-14-2018, 10:29 AM

Is there launch control on these cars? I swear I've looked up and down in the cluster for it.

///M Houbi · 12-14-2018, 10:53 AM

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I believe I used Bimmerlink.

(I paid for both Bimmercode and Bimmerlink...it's stupid that you can't use 1 for all your needs.)

You can use BimmerLink to control your valves yes. Thats what I also do at the moment...

But, this is not permanent. It only works if the app is running an connected as well as your OBD dongle.

There is no way to code (ESYS, BimmerCode, etc.) the exhaust valve behaviour.

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Nkc NOOB 1601 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: Cars Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: @BMWclassicdivision iTrader: (0)	Comfort + Efficiency on the streets. Love it. Full off / Sport+ / Paddles on track. Works well.
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Shekels Private First Class 90 Rep 111 Posts Drives: M2C HS Nov 2018 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Spain iTrader: (0)	Efficient/Comfort on start up until warm. Also on motorway, although I prefer Sport steering at higher speed as its not so light. Around town normally Sport+/Comfort, as I'm sad and want people to hear it pop.
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aerokubectl Major 909 Rep 1,017 Posts Drives: M2C Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	M1 => Sport + / Comfort / MDM M2 => Efficient / Comfort / TSC + DSC on The steering in Sport and Sport + is way too heavy for me. TSC is pretty scary when taking a turn at high speed, it kind of jerks the car back and forth, I thought I was gonna die lmao.
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bri1042 Brigadier General 5894 Rep 3,283 Posts Drives: 2021 IOMG M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	It depends on the situation. Take today on the way home, as an example. The Chrysler 200 driver next to me at the stop light was clearly feeling frisky. He was revving his mighty engine like you would not believe! Inching forward, just a bit at a time, until he was a foot past the white line. I knew this guy was serious. I mean, a Chrysler 200! He knows what he has. The light changed. I thought, "maybe this time I can take him...", but I knew I'd met my match and, with my poor BMW in Sport/Comfort (to cover the point of this thread) I let him blow past me with all the thunder that 200 could muster. Right past the cop that was sitting in clear view the whole time about 750 feet past intersection. I'm sure the cop complimented his driving skills and his mighty machine while giving him a ticket.
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