[///M Houbi]

I did update two days ago. Steering perfectly fine

[KevM2]

Originally Posted by ///M Houbi

I did update two days ago. Steering perfectly fine

Good to know! Wonder why some people are feeling a difference

[///M Houbi]

Just for info, I almost only drive in comfort mode. Sport and sport+ feel somewhatcartificially heavy to me, they did so back in last october and they still do the same way after the updates.

Comfort is fantastic.

[Jenius]

Originally Posted by ///M Houbi

Just for info, I almost only drive in comfort mode. Sport and sport+ feel somewhatcartificially heavy to me, they did so back in last october and they still do the same way after the updates.

Comfort is fantastic.

Having driven mine for around 3 weeks so far.. I felt like I really like comfort mode.

However, the problem is on expressways, it feels very jumpy in comfort mode.. steering become way too light.

Other cars with electric steering wheel seems to stiffen up nicely when speeds build up, without me actually notice it happening.. but the M2C doesn’t seem to do this very well.

I am using Sport exclusively now because of this

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by krizze

I'm taking my early 2017 M2 for an update at the dealer today, so you're saying im going to get the late 2017 software is that correct?

Correcto!

Rest of the car will be on latest ISTEP, so you get the improvements for iDrive, DSC, EPS, etc. Just DME bmw doesn't have any further updates from 2017.

[krizze]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Correcto!

Rest of the car will be on latest ISTEP, so you get the improvements for iDrive, DSC, EPS, etc. Just DME bmw doesn't have any further updates from 2017.

Fantastic! Thank you very much sir.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Wonder why some people are feeling a difference

The placebo effect or reset of the adaptions.

There is only so much that could possible be accomplished with just software, which is not enough to make a substantial difference. Especially since they confirmed that the steering software wasn't altered with this update.

However, it is plausible that they did update the bootloader firmware to detect tampering or tunes on their new software iteration. That's becoming a growing problem in the "just turn up the boost" era that we're in.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by Poochie

The placebo effect or reset of the adaptions.

There is only so much that could possible be accomplished with just software, which is not enough to make a substantial difference. Especially since they confirmed that the steering software wasn't altered with this update.

However, it is plausible that they did update the bootloader firmware to detect tampering or tunes on their new software iteration. That's becoming a growing problem in the "just turn up the boost" era that we're in.

Steering yes, but you'll be surprised what can be accomplished with software..

no it's not plausible, it's been confirmed by a few tuners already.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Steering yes, but you'll be surprised what can be accomplished with software..

no it's not plausible, it's been confirmed by a few tuners already.

Pretty sure a software update can change the feel (hard/softer) but I was pointing out its limitations, as they could only do so much without a hardware change. Also, this complaint about the steering wheel is irrelevant because it was noted that the steering module wasn't altered with the latest software update.

The tuning protect patch rumor is indeed turning into fact, as you pointed out; aftermarket tuners are encountering firewall and tamper code issues, on vehicles with the latest software.

Remember, the N20/N55/S55 ECU firewall was only cracked like a mere three years ago, BMW is probably now making changes down the pipeline to address this new vulnerability.



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[pz619]

Honestly feels like flash tuning is dead to me. It took years to crack the last ECU and sounds like they now patched out the vulnerability (from BMW's point of view). I suspect even if another way it found, it'll just be patched out again with the next update. Fellas, we might be back to piggybacks.

[MR.]

Originally Posted by pz619

Honestly feels like flash tuning is dead to me. It took years to crack the last ECU and sounds like they now patched out the vulnerability (from BMW's point of view). I suspect even if another way it found, it'll just be patched out again with the next update. Fellas, we might be back to piggybacks.

Piggybacks don't solve the OPF delete or delete-r issues!

MR

[pz619]

Originally Posted by MR.

Piggybacks don't solve the OPF delete or delete-r issues!

MR

We need to get you a non opf car! We have plenty here in North America

[chmura]

Originally Posted by MR.

Piggybacks don't solve the OPF delete or delete-r issues!

MR

Solving this should be relatively easy maybe. Why can’t European M2c get flashed with a DME from a North American DME and don’t have to worry about any OPF delete?? It’s all software at this point.

Recently I was fixing a buddies stock bmw Z3 which he purchased a new computer off of eBay. He took it to a shop and it got flashed with a DME for his car. He then gave me his car because it was throwing a few codes. I fixed 3 out of the 4 Engine codes. One of them I could not fix, it was a coolant temperature code.

Turns out that his car was flashed with a DME from a e46 which had a coolant sensor at the bottom of the radiator but his z3 did not have this coolant sensor.

Coming back to the M2c. Why can’t someone get a hold of a North American DME from an M2c without OPF? The computer won’t even look for the sensors in this case.

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by chmura

Solving this should be relatively easy maybe. Why can’t European M2c get flashed with a DME from a North American DME and don’t have to worry about any OPF delete?? It’s all software at this point.

Recently I was fixing a buddies stock bmw Z3 which he purchased a new computer off of eBay. He took it to a shop and it got flashed with a DME for his car. He then gave me his car because it was throwing a few codes. I fixed 3 out of the 4 Engine codes. One of them I could not fix, it was a coolant temperature code.

Turns out that his car was flashed with a DME from a e46 which had a coolant sensor at the bottom of the radiator but his z3 did not have this coolant sensor.

Coming back to the M2c. Why can’t someone get a hold of a North American DME from an M2c withit OPF? The computer won’t even look for the sensors in this case.

Mr. already has the OPF deleted and flashed with downpipes and full exhaust. You didn't read...he's saying "Piggybacks"

[MR.]

Originally Posted by pz619

We need to get you a non opf car! We have plenty here in North America

Driven one already in Europe! Interesting differences between both.

MR

[Kelvin1000]

Originally Posted by pz619

Honestly feels like flash tuning is dead to me. It took years to crack the last ECU and sounds like they now patched out the vulnerability (from BMW's point of view). I suspect even if another way it found, it'll just be patched out again with the next update. Fellas, we might be back to piggybacks.

Tuning has always been a cat and mouse game...

The car manufacturers will make adjustments to try to keep tuners out of the DME but the good tuners out there will figure out a solution and the game will go on and on like it always has... Everything can be hacked in time.

I am extremely confident in the Bootmod3 Team and I'm sure they will figure out a solution for whatever cars are affected.

[widetyres]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

As of 2019-03, no N55 M2 DME update has been released since mid-late 2017.

DSC update still applies though from M2C.. so might be worth updating and coding that

2mo ago you'll be fine. Update was released just a few weeks ago.

The og m2 has a different dsc unit to the m2c so you won't get the dsc updates.

[Proctor750]

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Tuning has always been a cat and mouse game...

Like the FIA and F1 engineers or drug/alcohol prohibition and the black market or regulations and the free market.

I give it less than 3 months for i.e. bm3 to get around it.

[Kelvin1000]

Originally Posted by Proctor750

Like the FIA and F1 engineers or drug/alcohol prohibition and the black market or regulations and the free market.

I give it less than 3 months for i.e. bm3 to get around it.

I say 3 days for a car by car based solution and 3 weeks for a general solution.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by widetyres

The og m2 has a different dsc unit to the m2c so you won't get the dsc updates.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...&q=34518096586


? it's just a very small update, as noted in the HWEL & software.

[widetyres]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...;q=34518096586


? it's just a very small update, as noted in the HWEL & software.

When I looked at it before the dsc module is a very different part number between the cars (not just an iteration).

Also, I'm not able to code my dsc to the m2c settings, which suggests that the m2c dsc software isn't supported on the og m2 module.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by widetyres

When I looked at it before the dsc module is a very different part number between the cars (not just an iteration).

Also, I'm not able to code my dsc to the m2c settings, which suggests that the m2c dsc software isn't supported on the og m2 module.

Have you updated on OG M2?