[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Amgeater2

All I see is people thrashing the car already...

So let me get this straight, you guys want an M2 with:

///M Seats
///M Setting (adaptive, steering, and Throttle)
DCT and DCT settings
Merino Leather
Extended leather...
Carbon Roof

why will BMW build this ???

and have the BALLS to make comments like the one below:

Make it an affordable ///M for those who want is good. But come on BMW, let the others (those who just do not like the M4...)

To be fair your mixing 2 sets of opinions.

1 set want all the goodies of the M4

1 set want a stripper (!) that's also reasonable entry M price.

I don't really see many (except lunatics) expecting full M4 features just in a smaller package for considerable less £££$$$$. I think we know this is not possible.

Looks like it is PYRAT 2 for sure which means good things on price!?

[technik330]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Wow.. don't be so obtuse..

Respectfully, I think it'd be great if you were a little less condescending to virtually everyone you reply to.

I think it's safe to assume that a lot of people, here, are excited about the new M2 and not interested in debating minutia in to oblivion.

No, I have no interest in arguing with you and literally logged in to offer you a polite reminder that a little respect and courtesy goes a long way with a lot of people.

Enjoy your 1M man, wish I could say I owned one myself.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Just because it has the DCT lever, doesn't mean we'll see a DCT. The X5 and X6 M both use the same lever without DCT.

[W///]

Calm down you filthy animals.

[Ritz42]

Originally Posted by W///

Not really. I've been following BMW launches since the E46 M3 days and "Scott" was around various forums doing the exact same thing. I just happen to take everything he says with a cup of salt, and warned everyone else to do so as well.

The idea of an S20 would have been very interesting for sure. But at the same time, you can never go wrong with BMW I6's. Not to mention you would have had people up in arms about how a $50k M car should not have a 4 cylinder as shown in the really early threads.

The S20 stuff was hysterical. I believe we saw posts of people stating that a 4 cylinder was not m appropriate, that no m car had ever had one, and no car with one would ever be considered an m. Good days those

[ron_jeremy]

Wow, alot of bitching over a car that's not presented yet.
You know bits and pieces, the puzzle will be finished soon, then you can bash it If it's not what you wanted/hoped it would be.

If we do look at the picture, and it is a M2, wasn't is supposed to be a more business version also, a CSL?
Maybe a more hardcore version with different seats and then some?
The "budget" M2 was always meant to be a entry level M, with a decent price tag, like the predessecor before it, the 1M.
The budget thingy is not something that will thrill the entusiast of the brand, but looking at how god the 235i is, the M2 should be great, but obviously with crappy seats

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Ritz42

The S20 stuff was hysterical. I believe we saw posts of people stating that a 4 cylinder was not m appropriate, that no m car had ever had one, and no car with one would ever be considered an m. Good days those

They did evaluate 4 cylinders for application in the M2.

We have a four cylinder with Power eDrive and eBoost which can produce around 450 PS.

[williewonkerz]

Originally Posted by W///

Calm down you filthy animals.

[Glassjaw047]

Originally Posted by W///

Bingo:

I'm surprised that blue stitching isn't on the center arm rest as well...

[gtaM2]

from one of the pics in the rear it does look like the seats have a head rest that is popped all the way up

[W///]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw047

I'm surprised that blue stitching isn't on the center arm rest as well...

Following the 1M yet again it looks like:

[wdeerfield]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Yeah, and it was disappointing to a degree. I had one and loved it, but it wasn't a good thing.

The seats being standard 235 seats to me being ok is highly dependent on price.

The 1m didn't have the cf roof, a special motor, or special seats. But it was like 46k and a lot cheaper than an m3. Let's see what this costs

Without those features, I have zero interest at a price any higher than 50k ish. :twocents:

a loaded m235i now is 51.. looks like you wont be buying one since there is no way this will be below 56k

[gtaM2]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw047

I'm surprised that blue stitching isn't on the center arm rest as well...

well that would increase the overall cost of production by $6

im good with everything ive seen so far, its all about bmw finding that balance

[Steven1077]

I actually like the M235i seats and don't mind if they use them

[gtaM2]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

I actually like the M235i seats and don't mind if they use them

now if they could just slap on the M badge that would be nice..doesnt seem like asking for much

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

I can only comment on what I see from time to time and from what I hear from excited colleagues.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

.
Many may say its just a more powerful M235i but you are wrong. In the same way that they say 1er M Coupe was a progressive 135i which they were wrong also. Those that still stick to that argument have shown their ignorance that they have never driven one.
And so will it be with the M2.

that's what I'm talking about...

Originally Posted by Adem1534

BURNNNNNNN

[aajami]

Originally Posted by W///

And I want an E30 M3 made by Singer, but that's not going to happen is it?

You are in the minority, that is willing to drop that kind of money on a car that's supposed to be a "starter" M. $9000 for CCB, $5000 for Individual, $3600 for extended leather. $17000 on those options alone.

I'm saying this because I happen to be in the car industry: It's nowhere as easy as you think to do those things. You can't just add extended leather (or HUD as a matter of fact) on a car that does not have it standard. You can't just add whatever paint you want in a factory that isn't equipped to do Individual.

My point is, just because it's developed for the bigger M cars doesn't mean you can just drop it into the M2.

Heck if your budget is so infinite, you can more or less do all those mods yourself. Not saying it'll be cheap, but look at what iND did with that blue M235i.

Here you go:

http://reduxleichtbau.com.gridhosted.co.uk/

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by technik330

Respectfully, I think it'd be great if you were a little less condescending to virtually everyone you reply to.

I think it's safe to assume that a lot of people, here, are excited about the new M2 and not interested in debating minutia in to oblivion.

No, I have no interest in arguing with you and literally logged in to offer you a polite reminder that a little respect and courtesy goes a long way with a lot of people.

Enjoy your 1M man, wish I could say I owned one myself.

Aww... THANKS MOM! you are so sweet! It's nice to know you still check in on me from time to time!

[technik330]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Aww... THANKS MOM! you are so sweet! It's nice to know you still check in on me from time to time!

Trying to save you from yourself man, you've been 'adjusted'.

Lame joke is lame, free laughs.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by technik330

Trying to save you from yourself man, you've been 'adjusted'.

Lame joke is lame, free laughs.

Ha! I do have entirely too much time on my hands at "work" right now. I do expect that to change soon.. fortunately!

[filet.M2c]

Looking at this picture the stitching pattern is different from the 1M. According to Hayes180 the one at Laguna Seca were

Originally Posted by hayes180

One piece. Man it would of been nice to take a few photos haha

there is a strong possibility we have the seat merged with the headrest similar to the M3, but who knows

[D-Rock]

no surprise here bmw just migrated everything over from a 228I