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More horsepower generally means a car has a higher top speed (track), while more torque generally means a car can accelerate faster (street). That, the sticky PSC2s and the Adaptive Dampers indicates that the CS is engineered to be more track-focus than daily street driven. |
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But in real world and on the roller, truth is quite the opposite. CS torque comes way earlier and more violently and stay at peak thru middle range, until 5500 it drops off to exactly the ZCP level. BTW, up top they're still tuned very differently (as shown from datalog) but power outputs are the same. Something you have to dive deeper to know.
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0-100km/h | 0-62mph (official figures):
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The in-gear accelaration figures don't really mean much in real world, but only is an indication of PUC (power under the curve) at a certain rev range. It's more like a real world dyno pull. That being said, I'm surprise M2 CS is quicker (meaning more powerful) from 80-120 on 4th. To be honest with you, whoever from BMW put up those numbers, I doubt he or she know its stuff.
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While tuning up the HP, why not tune up the Torque?
I was initially thinking both HP & Torque were going to see a bump up. So, why not bump up Torque? Is it a limitation of the engine? |
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The CS is noticeably faster, bordering scary fast too quickly. More than the 35hp difference quoted between the too. Much of that is actually due to the car feeling more planted and more compliant, more of the power actually hits the pavement. This is in part due to the Cup 2s, but also the suspension changes. People on the forums crap on the lack of center armrest, but in every day use it really wasn't something I noticed since I have the regular door cards in my M3 (compared to the stupid carbon cards in the M4CS). I haven't even had a chance to really push my M3 since I bought it in August and barely got to break-in by the time it went in to winter storage, but in those 2300km I can tell you it's a totally different animal. Full disclosure, my M3 was sitting on the lot for 13-14 months and it had "blowout" pricing (27k off list). I paid less than my original M4 actually and it's a much different animal. |
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Defining moment: it has officially popped up on the Petrolhead Territories radar. The radar alarm blip has a message for competing brands: *woop-woop* "Cave canem !" I posted the following in earlier thread: Quote:
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Situation will be different in the US since base M2C equipment is higher (and heavier) than in Europe. |
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The fact is that in Europe a base M2C is exactly the same weight than a base M2CS. The Sport Auto weight measurements do not contradict that, their M2C tested car was obviously not a base car (it has most probably the heavy optional sport brakes, electrical sport seats , HK sound system,...) |
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On the other hand Sport Auto compared an M2 CS in its lightest configuration( with CCB) and most likely a typically optioned M2C (i.e featuring the optional (in Europe) heavy sport brakes, electrical sport seats, HK sound system,...). So there is no contradiction, it is possible in Europe to have an M2C at the same weight than an M2CS (without CCB) but in real life most M2C will be slightly heavier. |
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