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Ford GT350, Camaro ZL1, a lesser cayman perhaps? MBenz=only have automatics, so no competition there Audi=only have automatics, so no competition there Alfa Quadrifoglio= only automatic, so no competition there. Im either looking at the M2CS or the Cayman GT4, I have two kids in car seats still, so the M2 would be a little more practical... but who wants that?!
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*cough* I did *cough* and I don't regret it one moment *cough* since I optioned it that way
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I glanced at a few posts first that mentioned the terri-bad sound of that thing and played it off as ear of the beholder... but DAAAYUUUUUM was that a horrible sounding exhaust!!!!!!
Not sure what was worse though... the song leading up to it or the exhaust!!! im still #1 at my dealer for one. Here is hoping that it doesn't sound like that in person. If so, I will give my 1 in 500 spot to someone else!!!!! cheers mates
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This forum should be renamed BUMMERPOST. Everyone is always complaining and bummed out. They put everything we wanted in the final version of the car. Stop complaining about the price we don't know anything official for the US. And this car is for people who want it period. If they want it they will pay.
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There is no chance this car is priced over $100k in the USA????
That would be outrageous and more overpriced than the M3/4cs!!!! I see what Artemis is saying price is in Europe....but, that would equate to well over $100k in USD. So, VAT has to be backed out I believe....otherwise, at $100k+ they will surely sit on dealer lots and potentially we could make a play for one in late 2020 with incentives and discounts. |
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I'll save us some pages.
1. People... what's the weight? 2. Weight announced 3. People in disbelief 4. People it's not a CSL Etc
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11-06-2019, 01:15 AM | #450 | |
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Totally agree though, the 1M and even OG M2 sold quickly because of the price. This car is for BMW M fans only. No one else in their right mind would pay 80-90k for an M2 variant. It is very hard to argue this is a competitive car performance-wise for the price when it will be approaching 718 Cayman GTS territory and solidly in C8 territory. |
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It's a Clubsport. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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At the same time, I feel like the CS models are really not competitive with what GM and some other manufacturers are doing with their top models. When you move from a C7 Z51 to a Z06 or a Camaro SS to a ZL1, you get a massive increase in performance for that price difference. They are (probably) charging a lot of money for the power the engine already makes in the M4, adaptive dampers already in the M4, and cosmetic treatments. It would be nice if they did something substantial with that money like widen the fenders slightly more so they can fit in something > 245/265, or some actually new parts. |
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However, some press mentions that "CS" in "M2 CS" stands for "Competition Sport". BMW launch materials expressly refer to "Clubsport" (see here): This immensely capable car also serves as a basis for the BMW M2 CS Racing model, BMW M Motorsport’s new entry point to amateur racing and the new Clubsport segment from the 2020 season. “The joint development of the BMW M2 CS and BMW M2 CS Racing underscores the close links between BMW Motorsport and BMW M GmbH,” explains Markus Flasch, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW M GmbH. “Our skillsets converge at the midway point between high-performance cars for the road and all-out racing machines – i.e. in the expanding Clubsport segment. We’re covering this niche with the Clubsport variant of the BMW M2 CS Racing and will be working in a similar direction with future special-edition models from BMW M.”
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€95,000 is over £80k. A fully optioned M2C is just under £60k.
That's outrageous and much better spent on the new M3/4 in my opinion, which should be a better car. Let's see how that turns out!!!!!
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Yes I know this mate, its called M2CS.....I mean people defend its lack of weight loss by saying its noy a CSL soooo...
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The annoying parts of this whole exercise are the lies and deception in the marketing. They keep repeating the solid subframe mounts and rear suspension like it's new, but it's been the same since the OG M2. They lied in older interviews where they said the passive suspension was best for the M2, clearly they were just saving it for their ///MoneyMaker. Just like they lied about the mirrors on the OG M2. |
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Btw. Do you say the same of the X2 to the X4? Or the X3 to the X5? Nothing on 2series/4series(take it like you want) quality is it actually worth to be priced like a Porsche. Not on the racetrack times and not on the daily plastic dashboard quality. You forget you become the VAT back. We can only buy it here for the fat price and than these superhot M2 is the price NOT WORTH. For these money you can buy here a regular m2 and a 118i for wintertimes! |
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If there is a BMW that begs for the treatment you are talking about, it's the Z4. Imagine if they released a Z4 M CS or CSL. The new CLAR chassis with S58 engine, 6MT, carbon fixed roof. That would be a serious car based on the numbers the Z4 M40i already puts down. |
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