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      10-03-2020, 01:30 PM   #67
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Evidently the car just needed to shut off and to go to sleep overnight as rev match is now disabled. And I didn’t have to deactivate the startlock brake.
Resuming? Only TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to nicht_aktiv?
Have you verified a little increase of rpm when you are stop and engage a gear?
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      10-03-2020, 02:47 PM   #68
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Resuming? Only TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to nicht_aktiv?
Have you verified a little increase of rpm when you are stop and engage a gear?
I did not notice higher rpms but I wasn't really looking for it either. I'll pay attention and let you know if I see it.

The only thing I set to nicht aktiv was the TCM_startlock_clutch stop. I didn't touch TCM_startlock_brake so I assume that is still set to aktiv.
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      10-03-2020, 03:26 PM   #69
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I did not notice higher rpms but I wasn't really looking for it either. I'll pay attention and let you know if I see it.

The only thing I set to nicht aktiv was the TCM_startlock_clutch stop. I didn't touch TCM_startlock_brake so I assume that is still set to aktiv.
The default is that clutch is set to aktiv and brake is set to nicht_aktiv, so you should only have to change clutch, assuming you've never touched any of the other settings.

The most common post recommends inverting that (which I assume is the auto/DCT setting): https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1168116

However, that doesn't work, as many folks found out. Turn off both, and immediately after you should be able to give the car electrical power and depress the clutch without the car starting automatically--you'll need to press and hold the ignition until the engine starts. Did this two days ago after a warranty service reset everything, so I can confirm you shouldn't have to wait at all.
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      10-03-2020, 07:20 PM   #70
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The default is that clutch is set to aktiv and brake is set to nicht_aktiv, so you should only have to change clutch, assuming you've never touched any of the other settings.

The most common post recommends inverting that (which I assume is the auto/DCT setting): https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1168116

However, that doesn't work, as many folks found out. Turn off both, and immediately after you should be able to give the car electrical power and depress the clutch without the car starting automatically--you'll need to press and hold the ignition until the engine starts. Did this two days ago after a warranty service reset everything, so I can confirm you shouldn't have to wait at all.
That sounds about where I am now. Rev match is off. When starting the car, the first push activates electricals and the second push starts the car. Sounds like I’m all set.
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      10-04-2020, 11:34 AM   #71
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In another tread someone suggest https://mhdtuning.com/ to turn it off pemanently
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      10-04-2020, 01:29 PM   #72
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Resuming? Only TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to nicht_aktiv?
Have you verified a little increase of rpm when you are stop and engage a gear?
Just to close the loop on this all is working fine.

1. TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH set to Nicht Aktiv.

2. TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to Nicht Aktiv (never changed it).

3. I have no increase in RPMs with a gear engaged.
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      10-04-2020, 03:58 PM   #73
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Resuming? Only TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to nicht_aktiv?
Have you verified a little increase of rpm when you are stop and engage a gear?
Just to close the loop on this all is working fine.

1. TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH set to Nicht Aktiv.

2. TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to Nicht Aktiv (never changed it).

3. I have no increase in RPMs with a gear engaged.
What do you think now that you've turned it off? The car felt more engaging to me with it off, although I missed the convenience of the auto rev match for daily driving.
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      10-04-2020, 06:29 PM   #74
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What do you think now that you've turned it off? The car felt more engaging to me with it off, although I missed the convenience of the auto rev match for daily driving.
It feels more normal to me. I've been driving manuals for 33 years and counting. I didn't like it. Glad I have the option to turn it on/off at will.
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      10-04-2020, 08:58 PM   #75
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Is there a way to enable rev-match all the time, even with DSC completely off?

I love the rev-matching feature so much, I don't know how I managed 25 years of manual driving without it.
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Just to close the loop on this all is working fine.

1. TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH set to Nicht Aktiv.

2. TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE set to Nicht Aktiv (never changed it).

3. I have no increase in RPMs with a gear engaged.
thanks a lot... i will try again
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      10-05-2020, 08:50 AM   #77
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Is there a way to enable rev-match all the time, even with DSC completely off?
I've thought about this as well. Would love to have it when everything else is off. Pretty sure that's how I'd drive the car all the time if it were possible. I'd also like to have a way to turn off all the damn lights/warnings when everything is off, but I'm sure that's not possible.

There I go, trying to turn the M2 into my Lotus again.
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I liked the novelty of rev match for about a week or two, then I realised it was robbing me of one of the most important parts of driving a manual 'box.

I turned it fully off in BM3 and now I feel like I know the car and engine a whole lot better.

With it on or off in differnt modes you can't adjust your brain to drive consistently (forget whether its on or off).

So OFF all the time means I learn properly how to control the rotating mass of the engine and learn the fine throttle control needed.

Not just "on it" drives, but pootling in town or parking up - managing engine speed and shifts yourself is fun!
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      10-05-2020, 03:52 PM   #79
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With it on or off in differnt modes you can't adjust your brain to drive consistently (forget whether its on or off).
That's actually a big part of the worry for me. When I play around with DSC fully off, i've noticed that the throttle blip needed in eco mode is bigger than the throttle blip needed in sport which is bigger than the one needed in sport + (on say a 3-2 downshift.)

I guess that's the (very first world) problem with having a bunch of different modes for throttle response.
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      10-13-2020, 10:52 PM   #80
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I find that I can still blip the throttle and make it behave just like a normal manual with auto-rev match on. There's a learning curve to it.

Aside from that, I personally love auto-rev match and can't see myself driving without it. This coming from someone who drove manual cars without auto-rev match for 23 years.
I agree 100%. Lots of fun beating the auto rev match to the punch.
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My code:
TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_DRIVINGREADINESS => nicht_aktiv
Rev matching deactivated.
I confirm double pressure on start button and a little increase in about 200 RPM when i stop the car and engaged every gear. If i push break it comes back to minimu.
i dream a world where i can turn off rev matching permanently without side effect!
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      10-20-2020, 08:01 AM   #82
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Do you think it would be possible to activate rev match in DSC off using coding ?
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Do you think it would be possible to activate rev match in DSC off using coding ?
Not coding no.

DME flash yes, you can do all that.

As I detest rev match in all its forms I took great pleasure in turning it fully off using BM3, but you can configure a variety of on/off options.

These other options are ideal if you want a manual box but can't be bothered with the hassle to operate it properly yourself

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Do you think it would be possible to activate rev match in DSC off using coding ?
Not coding no.

DME flash yes, you can do all that.

As I detest rev match in all its forms I took great pleasure in turning it fully off using BM3, but you can configure a variety of on/off options.

These other options are ideal if you want a manual box but can't be bothered with the hassle to operate it properly yourself
I am not asking for myself (my M2 is DCT) but for my track partner, as much as "operating" the manual gearbox is fun and great, he found some situations on track events where he could save some concentration effort and produce better lap times with the help of auto-blip.


Some forum members told us that MHD had this option but it was NOT true and my friend baught mhd for nothing..

On Porsche GT cars there is a single button to turn in on or off.
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My code:
TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_DRIVINGREADINESS => nicht_aktiv

Rev matching deactivated.
I confirm double pressure on start button and a little increase in about 200 RPM when i stop the car and engaged every gear. If i push break it comes back to minimu.
i dream a world where i can turn off rev matching permanently without side effect!
You are not disabling rev-matching with those coding parameters, per se; what that's essentially doing is disabling the clutch position sensor and by extension, rev-matching, since it needs data from that sensor to properly operate.

Hence the reason all the side effects, since the vehicle doesn't have a reading of where the clutch pedal position is, it can't modulate the RPM, upon take off or commence the stater safety interlock.

As far as I know, flash tuning is the only proper way to disable rev-matching, sans the lingering effects.
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      10-28-2020, 10:04 PM   #86
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My code:
TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_DRIVINGREADINESS => nicht_aktiv
Rev matching deactivated.
I confirm double pressure on start button and a little increase in about 200 RPM when i stop the car and engaged every gear. If i push break it comes back to minimu.
i dream a world where i can turn off rev matching permanently without side effect!
Thanks this did it for me. Now its easier to stall but funner to downshift

As a side note, maybe Im the only idiot but first few times I coded this in, I couldnt start the car and was panicking. Turns out you have to hold the start button now as opposed to just clicking it once to start up.
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Here you are a new setting by bimmercode on my 118D:
FEM / EXPERT MODE / 3020 Tc MASTER:

TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE =>aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_DRIVINGREADINESS => nicht_aktiv

You start engine with only one push of button and getting down bouth pedal (Brake + clutch)
I confirm in this setting too a little increase in about 200 RPM when i stop the car and engaged every gear.


I find more confortable this setting. I hated to push buttons two times by first setting.

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Here you are a new setting by bimmercode on my 118D:
FEM / EXPERT MODE / 3020 Tc MASTER:

TCM_STARTLOCK_BRAKE =>aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_CLUTCH => nicht_aktiv
TCM_STARTLOCK_DRIVINGREADINESS => nicht_aktiv

You start engine with only one push of button and getting down bouth pedal (Brake + clutch)
I confirm in this setting too a little increase in about 200 RPM when i stop the car and engaged every gear.


I find more confortable this setting. I hated to push buttons two times by first setting.

Do you know if the new M2C's coming out in 2021 will be able to have the same settings removed like the older ones. I have been reading the newer cars don't have the ECU unlocked so this may not work so I am looking for someone that has bought a new M2C to see if this is the case or if I am getting wrong information.
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