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Seems like the M2C is in a bit of a no mans land area in this test. There's not much else that's compares against it. It's not as expensive or fast as the Porsche, Corvette, Lotus, and more adaptable at being daily driven. It really is a Goldilocks of the group IMO.
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Thinking the M2CS might be the best of both worlds.
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Hmmm. Porsche seems to have figured it out. My 981 EPS feedback is pretty good and waay better than my M2.
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Every Porsche I've driven since their switch to EPS has precise and somewhat weighted steering, but it's a far cry from how communicative and stiff the hydraulic racks were. I cannot speak to the very high end Turbo, GT4, etc. models.
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It's not even close. The M2's steering is good enough for me, but it's still the main weak point of the car. My simple E90 provides me more smiles than a lot of high end modern cars.
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How does the GT4 feel compared to a Cayman S?
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Porsche is the pinnacle for which all other EPS is held to IMO. That being said, it doesn't hold a matchstick to the best HPS. It can still be better. We have to accept the way EPS as it is now. Companies aren't going back to HPS, ever. The problem is that steering feel is so subjective and that not many people agree. We're in the minority as enthusiasts too.
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My dad just picked up a Macan S. I'm visiting and have been driving it a lot. The steering really doesn't feel much different from the Boxsters, Caymans, and Cayennes I've driven. Very good in terms of precision and going fast through turns, but otherwise meh. On center deadness abound. I've read this about the Panamera and Taycan as well. I do hear the 992 is better, but will have to see for myself.
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Honda did this EPS back in 1999 and it's better than any modern eps that I drove So EPS can be good you just need to copy Honda for once |
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Now, I had no complaints at all when driving M2 or M4 ZCP at M school and in my test drives (M2C), but I think steering feel is something that takes a bit of time to figure out. I did drive a first gen Panamera Turbo and its steering feel was IMO better than every BMW I have driven except E36 M3, E46 M3, and Z4M. |
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I am actually incredibly impressed with how good the steering feedback is on these EPS. It's basically the fancy equivalent of a driving sim wheel with force feedback. |
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In addition to fuel savings, it’s more about the ability for EPS to support assisted driving features, which are quickly becoming a ‘must have’ option with some buyers. You can’t have two different steering designs on a ‘volume’ platform like the 2er/3er.
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Ie electro-hydraulic? So it will feel like a regular hydraulic system. Full EPS is electric motor driven only. |
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