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      08-20-2018, 05:38 PM   #45
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I got a pretty decent discount at my dealer



Mine was way higher than that... Perhaps different country?

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Same for me, now I’m not satisfied with 7% on m performance... where are you in CZ for this?
Drop me a PM and we will discuss more there.

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You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.
I know of three dealers currently with $5k markups on M2C.

EU gets discounts, but they get screwed with the OPF.
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I know of three dealers currently with $5k markups on M2C.

EU gets discounts, but they get screwed with the OPF.

Man, EU gets screwed on EVERYTHING. Hearing about the crazy prices in EU, along with VAT, and emissions taxes, and taxes on breathing air... holy crap.

I had a buddy who grew up here in the U.S., but has lived in Switzerland for the past 20 years come visit me. When I asked him what he wanted for dinner, I was expecting him to want to go out to a really nice restaurant. Instead, he asked if we could get Dominos Pizza! I said, "Dude, you know we're not 18 anymore, right?" And he said, "Dude, a Dominos medium pizza is $45 in Zurich." Crazy!
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There is no way in hell they will sell that car.....
I was up there picking up my parents car (just bought a G30 5er) and I thought the same thing. Then I watched them sell a LBB one (no idea what the buyer paid, but I understand it was more than MSRP).

As for me, I'll need to drive a few hours away to pick my car up once built, but I'm getting mine at MSRP. Crazy.
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I know of three dealers currently with $5k markups on M2C.

EU gets discounts, but they get screwed with the OPF.

Man, EU gets screwed on EVERYTHING. Hearing about the crazy prices in EU, along with VAT, and emissions taxes, and taxes on breathing air... holy crap.

I had a buddy who grew up here in the U.S., but has lived in Switzerland for the past 20 years come visit me. When I asked him what he wanted for dinner, I was expecting him to want to go out to a really nice restaurant. Instead, he asked if we could get Dominos Pizza! I said, "Dude, you know we're not 18 anymore, right?" And he said, "Dude, a Dominos medium pizza is $45 in Zurich." Crazy!
It all depends where you live in Europe.

In Denmark a M2C with a decent spec will cost you up to 150K EUR due to their tax... Come to Austria and it is 70-75K.

Run your car as a company car and you don't pay 19, 20 or 21% VAT. It is all about saving money which you later have to spend on parts Hahahaha.

Any company in Austria or Eastern Europe would have paid around 50K EUR for a M2. A natural person in Denmark would have paid 130K EUR for the same car.

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You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.
Is that just "market adjustment" with no Carbon Fiber bits attached? That dealer must be smoking crack!
Here is the option list. Not sure what this Black shadow edition is, but I have to assume the 4500+ is more than just seatbelts.
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You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.
Is that just "market adjustment" with no Carbon Fiber bits attached? That dealer must be smoking crack!
Here is the option list. Not sure what this Black shadow edition is, but I have to assume the 4500+ is more than just seatbelts.
Black wheels, black side things, black exhaust end pipes and black kidney grilles.

It is like a farewell model of the M2.

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Black wheels, black side things, black exhaust end pipes and black kidney grilles.

It is like a farewell model of the M2.

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Sounds like it's worth the $15k market adjustment.
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It all depends where you live in Europe.

In Denmark a M2C with a decent spec will cost you up to 150K EUR due to their tax... Come to Austria and it is 70-75K.

Run your car as a company car and you don't pay 19, 20 or 21% VAT. It is all about saving money which you later have to spend on parts Hahahaha.

Any company in Austria or Eastern Europe would have paid around 50K EUR for a M2. A natural person in Denmark would have paid 130K EUR for the same car.

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yeah, but university is free in Denmark. Socialism is so great.
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It all depends where you live in Europe.

In Denmark a M2C with a decent spec will cost you up to 150K EUR due to their tax... Come to Austria and it is 70-75K.

Run your car as a company car and you don't pay 19, 20 or 21% VAT. It is all about saving money which you later have to spend on parts Hahahaha.

Any company in Austria or Eastern Europe would have paid around 50K EUR for a M2. A natural person in Denmark would have paid 130K EUR for the same car.

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yeah, but university is free in Denmark. Socialism is so great.
Ha! What if I told you I'd rather have an M2C than a university education!
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You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.
It's called partial reinforcement.

https://www.psychestudy.com/behavior...-reinforcement

"This type of reinforcement is regarded more powerful in maintaining or shaping behavior. Also, behaviors acquired from this form of scheduling have been found to be more resilient to extinction".
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You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.
Just buy from an out of state dealer. Most people seem to be getting MSRP so far.
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I got lucky, somebody backed out of an allocation from May in LA, build week 38, I grabbed it at MSRP.
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I got lucky, somebody backed out of an allocation from May in LA, build week 38, I grabbed it at MSRP.
Sweet. Same build week here.. Mine just changed from received status to "scheduled for production". Which means nothing to me, but something happened finally.
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Hey guys,

Far be it for me step into a good ol' fashioned internet flame war, but I do think there is an objective answer here, without resorting to name-calling.

http://www.autos.com/aftermarket-par...ar-stop-faster

As I was reading through all the back and forth, my initial response was, "What? But, OF COURSE, bigger brakes will stop the car faster." But, after googling it, clearly it's not the case. And here's the funny thing... I was a physics major! Ha! The explanation contained in the link makes perfect sense, and brought back the ol' physics training that I've clearly completely forgotten over the years!

But, hey, 90% of the fun of being on an anonymous Internet forum is the ability to say things to others and hurl insults that we would NEVER contemplate doing in person if we were sitting across the table from another human being.

So... feel free to resume the insults, if need be.
Perhaps I was harsh. It's just a little annoying when someone comes in and is wrong and then acts like a know-it-all after they have been corrected by at least 3 different people. I mean... even the Wilwood and StopTech pages admit their kits don't really improve braking distance.
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All seems to be fine.

I double checked with my dealer and he said "no delivery issues". So no delaying delivery for me (Munich, Germany) - I'll get my M2C with M Track Pack in the first September week.
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All seems to be fine.

I double checked with my dealer and he said "no delivery issues". So no delaying delivery for me (Munich, Germany) - I'll get my M2C with M Track Pack in the first September week.
Good call, back to topic. M2 is agreed as a loaner for the gap period.
Good call BMW
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yeah, but university is free in Denmark. Socialism is so great.
Go to school in Denmark and drive a car with Eastern European number plates.... Problem solved

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Good call, back to topic. M2 is agreed as a loaner for the gap period.
Good call BMW
Great result and apologies for my original comment, didn't expect it to be so controversial
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Just buy from an out of state dealer. Most people seem to be getting MSRP so far.
I was able to secure one at MSRP a few hours from here. They made it super easy too.
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I know of three dealers currently with $5k markups on M2C.

EU gets discounts, but they get screwed with the OPF.

Man, EU gets screwed on EVERYTHING. Hearing about the crazy prices in EU, along with VAT, and emissions taxes, and taxes on breathing air... holy crap.

I had a buddy who grew up here in the U.S., but has lived in Switzerland for the past 20 years come visit me. When I asked him what he wanted for dinner, I was expecting him to want to go out to a really nice restaurant. Instead, he asked if we could get Dominos Pizza! I said, "Dude, you know we're not 18 anymore, right?" And he said, "Dude, a Dominos medium pizza is $45 in Zurich." Crazy!
Zurich... where I live

Yes be prepared to spend 150 to 200 bucks for a (yes, only one!) very nice dinner with your lady...
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