[MR.]

Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Still donno how you get a discount on a M2C?
Am I the only person here thinks getting a build slot within the first delivery batch is lucky enough?

I got a pretty decent discount at my dealer

Originally Posted by Apachesmith

Need to shop around I was lucky enough to negotiate a 5% discount on my M2C! There is room for manoeuvre on the buy price especially if it’s highly optioned!

Mine was way higher than that... Perhaps different country?

MR

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Thanks for sharing, So far, I believe the shortage situation is real. Let's see what 10 years of loyalty means to BMW.

10? Working on 40+ years here; don't expect it to mean diddly.

[Twinsturbo]

Checked with my dealer here in Sweden now again. No signs of any delayed deliveries(Checked 3 different m2cs). When it comes to discount it was significantly higher than 5% for me aswell.

[Alec02]

Originally Posted by MR.

I got a pretty decent discount at my dealer



Mine was way higher than that... Perhaps different country?

MR

Same for me, now I’m not satisfied with 7% on m performance... where are you in CZ for this?

[///M Houbi]

Just checked with my SA as well (switzerland). They have not gotten any notifications of delay for all their M2C's on order.

My is the very first they ordered, order date 1st of june, production week 36, delivery week 38.

[pz619]

You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by pz619

You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.

Is that just "market adjustment" with no Carbon Fiber bits attached? That dealer must be smoking crack!

[Apachesmith]

Originally Posted by pz619

You guys are getting discounts? This is in so cal as of Saturday. Also, this is the OG M2.

There is no way in hell they will sell that car.....

[GarryF]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Interesting....

As you like lists......

1. Are you saying the upgraded brakes stop the car quicker? (on first use)

YES!

You must have got out of bed on the wrong side...

So 2 cars side by side brake from say 80 mph, explain to me how the one with the brake upgrade stops one car quicker than the other?

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by GarryF

You must have got out of bed on the wrong side...

So 2 cars side by side brake from say 80 mph, explain to me how the one with the brake upgrade stops one car quicker than the other?

He doesn't know what he's talking about.
The comment about ABS that he made fun of was simply and correctly trying to explain that the limiting factor is stopping distance for cold brakes is traction / tires and that either set of brakes will yield exactly the same stopping distance.

Now, brake fade from repeated heavy stopping at the track is where the difference will be.
The larger brakes can dissipate the heat more efficiently.

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

::

Wow, yep, absolutely no idea what Im talking about. Dear god ::

Yeah it's not like I have over a hundred track days under my belt. Truly I have no idea how brakes work.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

::

Wow, yep, absolutely no idea what Im talking about. Dear god ::

Maybe you skipped Physics class?

[allthatisntnow]

Is this shortage legit? I entered production just over a week ago and i have 2NH specced.

They obviously have some on hand.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

If it was on during engineering class maybe :

Well, with your lack of understanding you clearly aren't an engineer.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Wow ok, I will entertain this for now, Im not sure if you actually being serious or being a mong.

He thinks that two identical cars, one with stock brakes vs one with the big brake kit will stop in the exact same distance from 80mph.

As you clearly haven't bothered to read the rest of my replies, Im going to put his theory to the test once I get my comp vs a friends comp with stock brakes.

I've tuned numerous cars and ALWAYS started with upgrading brake components and suspension before adding power. EVERY car I have added a big brake kits on stops considerably quicker/shorter than the stock brakes they replaced! The big brake kits allow me to brake later at a given point hence making me quicker from A-B or on track compared to guys who just add power! But, as you seem an expert you must know this already.

Thanks for stopping by though but please, go talk shit to someone else.

You're an idiot if you believe the BBK will stop any shorter on the first stop outside the margin of error when using the same tires on both cars. Seriously, go take high school physics.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

First stop? Jesus christ mate bore off. Yep, you are being a mong.

You are incorrect, proudly ignorant, and spreading misinformation, please go away.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Please share WHY YOU THINK they will stop in the same distance.....

Im waiting.....

You can Google it for yourself and learn. The person making the extraordinary claims is the one subject to the burden of proof. Established science tells us that the BBK gives increased thermal capacity. Increasing brake torque will not reduce your stopping distance. You can figure out why.

[GarryF]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Please share WHY YOU THINK they will stop in the same distance.....

Im waiting.....

Go study physics, the limiting factor is the friction between the tyre and the road surface.

When you press too hard this causes the ABS to engage, and we're back to square one.

It could be fun if you try your experiment on a rougher surface, technically the lighter brake will actually stop the car faster as it will be better at keeping the tyres in contact with the road due to less unsprung weight

[3tekcorps]

Where are the published brake tests for Comp and Original? C&D posted these numbers.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rm-test-review

[chris719]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Still waiting...

Goodnight.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oB4LiBJTZv...English_p6.JPG

Cannot find the page with the 250-0 table, but you can see the first stops are all very similar and within the margin of error. Note that the BMW Series brakes are stock E92 M3 SINGLE piston caliper brakes and they perform better than the Brembo GT BBK.

The graph are the heated distances.

[IAF]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Please share WHY YOU THINK they will stop in the same distance.....

Im waiting.....

You are just plain wrong mate.

Bigger brakes do not reducing braking distance. They reduce brake fade, and are designed to improve consistency in more 'intense' conditions - ie high temperatures.

Its pretty simple stuff really.

[cptobvious]

Hey guys,

Far be it for me step into a good ol' fashioned internet flame war, but I do think there is an objective answer here, without resorting to name-calling.

http://www.autos.com/aftermarket-par...ar-stop-faster

As I was reading through all the back and forth, my initial response was, "What? But, OF COURSE, bigger brakes will stop the car faster." But, after googling it, clearly it's not the case. And here's the funny thing... I was a physics major! Ha! The explanation contained in the link makes perfect sense, and brought back the ol' physics training that I've clearly completely forgotten over the years!

But, hey, 90% of the fun of being on an anonymous Internet forum is the ability to say things to others and hurl insults that we would NEVER contemplate doing in person if we were sitting across the table from another human being.

So... feel free to resume the insults, if need be.