BMW 2NH (M Sport Brake) shortage delaying deliveries？

crazyzxf · 08-19-2018, 03:17 PM

Hi, I am a enthusiastic BMW fan from UK and have a M2C on order.
The vehicle was due for 17th Sep delivery, but I was informed by my dealer last week: there is an overwhelming take rate of the 2NH (upgraded Sport brake) option and BMW's supplier cannot make those parts fast enough. My delivery date is postponed to November.
My dealer also said, if I can remove the 2NH option, my original delivery date can be maintained.

I have gone back to BMW and expressed my anger and refused the delayed. If this situation is true, I am not sure what my dealer can do.
Watched so many US owners collected their cars, (all with 2NH option), This smells a little fishy to me, has anyone received a similar message?

crazyzxf · 08-19-2018, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Hi, I am a enthusiastic BMW fan from UK and have a M2C on order.
The vehicle was due for 17th Sep delivery, but I was informed by my dealer last week: there is an overwhelming take rate of the 2NH (upgraded Sport brake) option and BMW's supplier cannot make those parts fast enough. My delivery date is postponed to November.
My dealer also said, if I can remove the 2NH option, my original delivery date can be maintained.

I have gone back to BMW and expressed my anger and refused the delayed. If this situation is true, I am not sure what my dealer can do.
Watched so many US owners collected their cars, (all with 2NH option), This smells a little fishy to me, has anyone received a similar message?

It is true, I was told the same thing. Ordering an M2C in the UK now with the big brake option will delay the car delivery to mid December or you can have it delivered mid Oct with standard brakes.

The only way round it is finding a build slot that someone has dropped out of who has specced the brake option.

It is Brembo who are struggling with the supply to BMW.

No sure this is enough justification to postpone an existing order. I can understand the impact on new orders.

nidfix · 08-19-2018, 04:40 PM

I have been told the same thing in Switzerland...

Funny that BMW decided to deliver first US market (which from I understood has big brakes "by default") to eventually notice that they would run out of stock for that part...

I don't think Brembo plans on its own how many parts they have to deliver to BMW without some feedback from them (as usually you have penalties if you fail to fulfil what you committed to...)

Probably Europe is not that much important for them on that class of cars.

crazyzxf · 08-19-2018, 04:48 PM

UK is 2nd largest overseas M market for BMW......

Anyway, i am waiting BMW to offer a better solution, i was told to sit tight and the manager is trying

nidfix · 08-19-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

UK is 2nd largest overseas M market for BMW......

Anyway, i am waiting BMW to offer a better solution, i was told to sit tight and the manager is trying

Well, for us there is no sea to cross and it does not seem to help to get it quicker...

Good luck with the manager.

GarryF · 08-19-2018, 05:12 PM

sounds like I'll get my car quicker then

Didn't go for the brakes as they just add extra unsprung weight with little benefit unless your on track, the normal brakes can still engage abs etc.

2 month delay sucks though, good luck twisting their arm.

crazyzxf · 08-19-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GarryF

sounds like I'll get my car quicker then

Didn't go for the brakes as they just add extra unsprung weight with little benefit unless your on track, the normal brakes can still engage abs etc.

2 month delay sucks though, good luck twisting their arm.

Thanks for sharing, So far, I believe the shortage situation is real. Let's see what 10 years of loyalty means to BMW.

akkando · 08-19-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

UK is 2nd largest overseas M market for BMW......

Anyway, i am waiting BMW to offer a better solution, i was told to sit tight and the manager is trying

The UK was the only place where new and used M2s were just sitting on lots in large amounts.

Apachesmith · 08-20-2018, 01:41 AM

Have had my order in since May (1st with my dealer) they have also said to me build a October delivery November.... I’m not sure anyone in the UK market irrelevant of brake spec will see a car before the end of October! Originally I was told September......

GarryF · 08-20-2018, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

I've seen you post this a few times about their ability to engage abs. Judging brakes by their ability to engage an abs system to see if they are any good/worth upgrading is ridiculous. There is a little more to it than "can my brakes activate my abs"

Feel free to share?
1. Are you saying the upgraded brakes stop the car quicker? (on first use)
2. They will fade less, however I've never had fade with M4 brakes in 3 years so not an issue for me, I don't do the Alps and I don't do the autobahn where I could see them being very useful. I also don't go on racetracks.
3. I can fit my current 18" oem winter wheel set on the car
4. They add more unsprung weight

There's a long thread here, you should go argue therehttps://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&highlight=2nh

I wish the OP luck getting the option, luckily we have choice and after much thought I decided to pass on them for (apparently ridiculous) reasons.

MR. · 08-20-2018, 03:28 AM

I think your brakes are RHD and therefore they are delayed

No just kidding, this is just ultimate crap. No news at my end yet! All seems to be fine.

I will double check with my dealer and see what he says, but nothing wrong so far and all seems to be fine.

Anyone else here in Europe with this issue? Ask your dealer just in case!

MR

Twinsturbo · 08-20-2018, 03:36 AM

Delivery mid october here(Sweden) no info from dealer about delays yet. This info given to me about 2 weeks ago!

crazyzxf · 08-20-2018, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by akkando

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

UK is 2nd largest overseas M market for BMW......

Anyway, i am waiting BMW to offer a better solution, i was told to sit tight and the manager is trying

The UK was the only place where new and used M2s were just sitting on lots in large amounts.

This is shocking but not surprised! Don't matter if you are genuine buyer and intend to enjoy the car. Tough for the others...

2yrs later, you can pick up a 4yr old OG M2 for £25k! Isn't that great for many people??

crazyzxf · 08-20-2018, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinsturbo

Delivery mid october here(Sweden) no info from dealer about delays yet. This info given to me about 2 weeks ago!

Got reply from BMW, the manager is trying to find me a M car until my M2C is delayed.

How does that sound?

MR. · 08-20-2018, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Got reply from BMW, the manager is trying to find me a M car until my M2C is delayed.

How does that sound?

Tell him you want a 1M or a M3 E46 CSL...

He will respond "We don't sell those". Reply "you said finding, not selling me"

Let's see what he comes back with... Let's hope it is not a M240i hahahaha #mcar

MR

Robin_NL · 08-20-2018, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Interesting....

As you like lists......

1. Are you saying the upgraded brakes stop the car quicker? (on first use)

YES!

As I heard and read all the interviews and know a bit about brakes: It's the consistency/stamina the big brakes have over the normal ones (i.e. on track), not so much the stopping distance. That (also) depends on type of tyres/surface.

Also the unsprung weight of in total 16kgs will be noticable. My 18inch winterset already feels less heavy(steering/turning)

Cheers
Robin

gnx · 08-20-2018, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Got reply from BMW, the manager is trying to find me a M car until my M2C is delayed.

How does that sound?

As a loaner? Are u kidding?

crazyzxf · 08-20-2018, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Interesting....

As you like lists......

1. Are you saying the upgraded brakes stop the car quicker? (on first use)

YES!

As I heard and read all the interviews and know a bit about brakes: It's the consistency/stamina the big brakes have over the normal ones (i.e. on track), not so much the stopping distance. That (also) depends on type of tyres/surface.

Cheers
Robin

I agree mate and the kit upgrade price is a bargain. No brainer.

The discount I got on my comp covers the BBK easily.

Still donno how you get a discount on a M2C?
Am I the only person here thinks getting a build slot within the first delivery batch is lucky enough?

Apachesmith · 08-20-2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Still donno how you get a discount on a M2C?
Am I the only person here thinks getting a build slot within the first delivery batch is lucky enough?

Need to shop around I was lucky enough to negotiate a 5% discount on my M2C! There is room for manoeuvre on the buy price especially if it’s highly optioned!

Bee Pee · 08-20-2018, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyzxf

Still donno how you get a discount on a M2C?
Am I the only person here thinks getting a build slot within the first delivery batch is lucky enough?

If owning "one of the first in the UK" is of higher important than a keener price, then so be it.

Now, here in UK, M2C discounts of ~5% are out there if you are prepared to haggle and or wait. I've been offered that and other "inducements" to switch from my OG M2 to M2C....

Robin_NL · 08-20-2018, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

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Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Interesting....

As you like lists......

1. Are you saying the upgraded brakes stop the car quicker? (on first use)

YES!

As I heard and read all the interviews and know a bit about brakes: It's the consistency/stamina the big brakes have over the normal ones (i.e. on track), not so much the stopping distance. That (also) depends on type of tyres/surface.

Cheers
Robin

I agree mate apart form the noticeable weight, unless you are a pro driver, the extra power will outweigh the extra weight from the kit. Im going to test the stock brakes on a M2comp vs a BBK kit on a M2Comp to see what the difference in "stopping distance" actually is. Will post up once I've tested it.

The brake kit upgrade price is a bargain. No brainer.

The discount I got on my comp covers the BBK easily.

Ok keep us posted. BBK is € 1700,00 as an option in Netherlands. Pagid Yellow and fluid and I'm good to go with my normal brakes.

Cheers
Robin

///M Houbi · 08-20-2018, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nidfix

I have been told the same thing in Switzerland...

Funny that BMW decided to deliver first US market (which from I understood has big brakes "by default") to eventually notice that they would run out of stock for that part...

I don't think Brembo plans on its own how many parts they have to deliver to BMW without some feedback from them (as usually you have penalties if you fail to fulfil what you committed to...)

Probably Europe is not that much important for them on that class of cars.

What date did you place your order and when where you told this information?

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