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Porsche 918... Don't get me wrong, M2 is a sporty coupé a compromise, the definition of a sportscar in general is a bit difficult to explain. And I think there are 100 of personal definitions. Mine starting with rwd + lsd >300BHP and ending with minimally 6 cylinders under the bonnet Cheers Robin |
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This is what I will do. Let me start looking at the diagrams and see what I can find. I know there is a big chunk of foam in top the trunk(not actual trunk lid). If anyone else sees any please let me know. To the noise likers out there, I love a good sounding exhaust and the man noise cars produce, but droning on the expressway listening to road noise is a s fun as a BJ with teeth. I wont even start on the ARTIFICIAL noise being pumped in the cabin. If your going to pump Artificial sound into the cabin, I think you can make it a little louder and compensate for the sound deadening....or how about a knob for volume control on the motor thru radio sound?????
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02-23-2016, 05:54 AM | #31 |
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Yes, take the fuse out or code it out. Although I have heard that coding it out only mutes the ASD.
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HAHAH god-dammit my seat heating only has 3 stages of control, you call this a CAR!!
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02-23-2016, 08:16 AM | #33 |
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I'm pretty sure there are plenty of "daily drivers" out there that have far less sound damping material than an M2 and those owners seem to get to work just fine without their ears bleeding every morning. Ever ridden in a Honda Fit? You'd swear the doors were made of aluminum foil.
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This thread is amusing. I do believe that in this type of car, you are supposed to hear the world around you. I get what some are saying... they want more of a sport luxury car. The problem is that you cannot really make a car to fit every niche. It is simply not what the M has stood for. You want something different than they want to make. Porsche does this well, and people bitch. They offer a fairly stripper car, then charge $147,391 in extras to add things that come standard in many other cars. The M is a compromise between true race/sport and true road/luxury - it always has been. Where on that spectrum of compromise is up for debate, but that it IS, in fact, a compromise, really is not.
Edit: It was why the CSL was so beloved - it was a far less compromised sports car. Last edited by jtodd_fl; 02-23-2016 at 09:26 AM.. |
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While folks are diligently defining for all of us what an M car is, remember that when it comes to sound deadening impacts, what imaginative individuals envision is good engine sound while in reality it will be the unpleasant drone of tire noise. Probably why they pipe in sound.
As for Bach.. I will do my focused listening in places other than cars. However, I do care about the upgraded stereo and I do hope to occasionally listen to music.. or converse.. or think. Some may wish they had pushed the car farther in the direction of track while others, like me, appreciate the compromises going farther in the direction of daily driver. Most of these cars will never see a track but hopefully many will see canyons and almost all will see a commute. BTW.. neither the 911 S nor a Cayman R is louder than an M3 while the 1M was notably louder than all of them (http://www.auto-decibel-db.com/). Hope they keep it at the M3 levels or less. Last edited by Spook410; 02-23-2016 at 06:11 PM.. |
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72 decibels cruising at 70. This is 5 over the M235. |
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When starting out reading this thread, i thought is was a poor trolling attempt, but i guess it's not. I have to say i'm just embarrassed for those of you that want to put sound deadening BACK into a car whose purpose it to deliver a sensory experience. What the hell!
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You'll get that drone. Is it a high pitch drone or a deep low drone?
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Well some of you get your wish. 72db at 70mph put's the M2 right there with favorites like the V6 Ford Mustang and Fiat 500 Abarth. Very, very few cars on the market are that loud. It may make the car unsuitable as a daily driver for many of us. Certainly a poor choice for anything stretching into hours. The response to this news reminds me of the Consumer Reports reviews of Cadillacs in the 80's: They were the worst in build quality and reliability (for the analogy challenged, noise would be the analog here) and yet had top flight 'customer satisfaction'. Geezers loved their caddies. I'm sure those who can apply youthful exuberance to overlook what I consider a glaring flaw will be very happy with this car. As for me.. back to looking a base Cayman's.
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