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C'mon, dear forum fellows: it ain't the precise number of hp/bhp that's of major importance, but what you can do with it.
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Read the lips of the ///M Boss Nitschke in a recent interview:
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showpos...46&postcount=1
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I also had 2 E82 135s. Lined up next to one another, they (M235 and E82 135) are very very close, size-wise. But they don't feel like they're basically the same size. The hood of my M235 seems like it is 15 feet long. I don't especially like that. Just my $.02...
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More size comparisons: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...84&postcount=1 http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=19
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I have to agree though, that when I tested the M235, it felt bigger than my 135 (and I mean physical size, not weight or handling manners). It is just surprising, considering how close they are in dimensions.
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You are talking about 2 completely different things. Scott said that the 4 cylinder engine was considered. The other guy that leaks all the engine codes and start of production was the one that said uprated N55. Look up his info, has he been wrong yet?
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If he did at a later time, within this thread, then I stand corrected. Regardless, I think it'd be hilarious if BMW offers the M2 with an 'uprated' N55, when they've had ample time to derive a proper motor for the car. We can all agree that the N55 isn't the N54 and as such, why create an M2 to use an inferior motor to the previous 1M? That's like taking a step forward to take two back. To me, if the motor is simply an uprated N55, that would prove that BMW is truly using the M2 as a ramp for other M cars.
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That said, if they go that route I'd just end up feeling like they half-assed the motor, when they've had since 2011 to put a proper motor together for this specific car. Three years is ample time, wouldn't you agree?
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Put another way, lets assume that given that exact same hp and torque figures, including curves for all three engines above, it matters nought. Say they all had 400 hp and 500 nm, identical power and torque curves, wouldn't we be happy with any one of the engines? So ultimately its not the engine, its what BMW do to the engine to make it perform the way we want it to in the M2. After all, we're not talking hand built bespoke engines such as Ferrari are we? If the M2 comes with close to 400 hp and 500+ nm then I couldn't give a damn what letters / numbers the engine has. |
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http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686 I'm pretty sure he has yet to be wrong, he chimed in on this thread I believe on page 2. Quote:
N55 is a single turbo twinscroll i6 (generally 2011 and later x35i models) S55 is a twin turbo i6 based off of the N55 (used in the M3/4) The N54 was the motor used in the 1M and is generally considered a more tune-able engine than the N55, albeit less reliable in stock form. The S55 was configured by the M division in such a way that it deviated so much from the original as to warrant a new engine code. In response to the bolded text: that idealized situation just doesn't exist. There are way too many factors that are readily apparent if you were to drive them back to back that'll quickly make you play favorites. The sum of all of the parts put together is what matters, indeed one of the most important pieces is which engine they shove in up front. M-cars almost always use S-derived engines. The 1M was a recent exception and that was probably due to time constraints... but the M2 is having significantly more development time which is probably why a lot of people are upset about the idea of the N55 being used. And about hand built engines, there were actually hand built S engines, but they haven't done that for decades in production cars...
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