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04-25-2016, 12:57 AM | #46 |
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Ah yes. In Europe we don't use the term "moon roof", at least I've never heard it. We refer to them as glass sunroofs, and since they are almost always glass, the distinction has disappeared.
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There was a moonroof option for the E30 that was a glass roof and it was very rare. BMW E36 Also Had metal sunroof. Most of the cars today have a moonroof or a panoramic ( multi panel ) moonroof. |
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A moonroof is metal. A sunroof is tinted glass. That is why most modern cars are listed as having sunroof option are made of tinted glass. Seeing the moon would be done at night and would require opening the metal roof. You could not see the moon with the tinted glass closed. The sun on the other hand could easily be seen through a tinted glass. |
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So BMW could raise the MSRP on the M2 4K for MY 17 and solve the problem. Then there would be a more appreciable price difference between the M2 and the M235i. It would still be a could deal for a entry level M and still 10K less than the M3/M4. As production increased and demand wanes they could discount them down to current MSRP. |
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I'm in Australia. Prices are slightly different, "base car" is also different. The Australian market, "standard" cars comes with a lot more different options.
But like the rest of the world the M235i in my opinion is priced a bit too high msrp. For example, in Australia the M235i cost $90k-$100k (base - fully optioned) drive away (that's after taxes and dealer delivery costs). But discounts could be had after about 6 months. I bought mine fully optioned at 81k 15 months ago and now they can be had for 76-77k. (Big difference 20-25% discount). While the M2 pure is $100k and fully optioned M2 is $110k, obviously with no discounts due to lack of allocations. So in saying that, technically if you spec the cars up of the M235 fully optioned vs base M2 pure the msrp is very similar, but after discounts it goes from $5k difference to $30k difference. Therefore, there's still a big gap for people to think about, whether the M2 is worth that extra $30k
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High 40's, low 50's here in Canada. The "base" models here come nearly fully loaded and we have many fewer options.
A fully loaded 340i is about $80K. Another example is the M2 to M4 price gap. In the US, it's around $15-20K whereas here in Canada an M2 is $61K and M4's are typically $90-95K, so it's a $30K+ difference. |
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