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      01-19-2020, 03:54 PM   #23
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There was/is a BMW dealer in Columbia, Missouri who had (and likely still has) a 2020 SOM with executive package, MT, and I think black wheels (maybe not) that I checked out even though it was a drive. They were willing to go down like $5000 below MSRP and also to ship it free to me. Check it out on CarGurus if you want. The problem I had with it is it's been sitting there at the dealer for over 200 days (hence the willingness to negotiate) and also has like 350 miles on it. I have no idea what's been done in those 300 miles (joy rides, etc). I was not in a hurry and got my local folks to meet that pricing for ordering one brand new, so it was an easy decision for me.
Yep, agreed on that one. I too was looking at a HS which has been sitting inside the showroom since May?!? While it only had 10 miles on it according to them, who knows how many people sat in it. I passed.
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Protective Paint film, paint correction & ceramic coating


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Thanks for the one guys email! Also, why are you waiting until 1200 miles to do PPF? I'm too paranoid to wait that long.
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Thanks for the one guys email! Also, why are you waiting until 1200 miles to do PPF? I'm too paranoid to wait that long.
Tell me about PPF versus ceramic coating? Doesn't PPF discolor or cause issue over time? I tend to keep my cars 8+ years. And isn't ceramic just layers of wax basically?

I am thinking of just doing ceramic pro on my wheels to make them easy to clean
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Thanks for the one guys email! Also, why are you waiting until 1200 miles to do PPF? I'm too paranoid to wait that long.
Oh, no-- the PPF, paint correction and ceramic coating will happen pretty much immediately. It'll be "Pick up car (still covered in shipping material), drive home, install reflector deletes, then drive to PPF, drive to ceramic coating".

I just didn't list them properly-- they're things that I can't purchase until the car is here.

Tires will be within 50 miles as well.
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Tell me about PPF versus ceramic coating? Doesn't PPF discolor or cause issue over time? I tend to keep my cars 8+ years. And isn't ceramic just layers of wax basically?

I am thinking of just doing ceramic pro on my wheels to make them easy to clean
Paint protection film is just that-- think clear bra and you're on the right track.

The old stuff yellowed and cracked-- the new materials used are pretty amazing. I've had it on several vehicles for almost 15 years with no issues.

Ceramic coating is sort of a step above wax, and can last for years. It's extremely hydrophobic and helps keep the car luster up and the dirt content down. It basically bonds to the paint-- sort of like an "extra" clear coat.

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Paint protection film is just that-- think clear bra and you're on the right track.

The old stuff yellowed and cracked-- the new materials used are pretty amazing. I've had it on several vehicles for almost 15 years with no issues.

Ceramic coating is sort of a step above wax, and can last for years. It's extremely hydrophobic and helps keep the car luster up and the dirt content down. It basically bonds to the paint-- sort of like an "extra" clear coat.

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So sounds like PPF is the way to go because it will protect from chips, etc? Does is provide a nice shine too? Whats the approx cost to do the M2? I usually stay away from these things and tend to take good care of my cars, not sure why I'm thinking about it for the M2
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So sounds like PPF is the way to go because it will protect from chips, etc? Does is provide a nice shine too? Whats the approx cost to do the M2? I usually stay away from these things and tend to take good care of my cars, not sure why I'm thinking about it for the M2
The PPF I just put on my wife's Miata is essentially invisible.

As to cost? How much do you want to spend?

Wrapping the front of the Miata? About $1200 bucks.

Full wrap on a high-end SUV? Could be $10,000.

I figure the M2C will be around $2-2,500.

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The PPF I just put on my wife's Miata is essentially invisible.

As to cost? How much do you want to spend?

Wrapping the front of the Miata? About $1200 bucks.

Full wrap on a high-end SUV? Could be $10,000.

I figure the M2C will be around $2-2,500.

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PPF definitely protects from rock chips. I've seen quotes for about $6000 for the full M2c wrap. The full front clip is usually around $1500-$2000 (even shopping around it's in that ballpark). The recommendation I've seen on the forums is to do the full front clip, rocker panels, and then a larger piece on the rear quarter panel (to take the place of the OEM piece) at a minimum. I'm probably going that route myself. For those three items it's going to be about $3k. The guy I'm having do it though is a pretty high end shop (mentioned it before; he's done Ferarris and other high end stuff and I've seen pictures of his work. He's super methodical). Below is a picture of the area on the rear quarter someone outlined on another post of the area to do:
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At the risk of a bit of thread drift (but obviously of interest if you're in "The Wait" for an M2C--

Here's my PPF plan:

- 36-48" up the hood, then dropping down from cut line to front half of front quarter panels
- Entire front bumper
- Headlights
- A-pillars
- Rocker panels
- Area behind front and rear wheels (determined by body flare)
- Area in front of rear wheel (where OEM PPF is). OEM PPF will be pulled and new PPF will cover the entire area from the door edge to about 4" below the dogleg
- Horizontal portion of rear bumper below trunk
- Curve at bottom of fuel filler door (so gas nozzle doesn't scratch paint)

I *thought* about a full wrap, but I'm happy to do this-- and then ceramic coat the car. That should be enough protection for me.
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Well, if you're looking for a few more ideas, here's the "post-1200 mile list", plus a few things that I won't get serious about until the car is only a few weeks out:

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 tires
Superbright rear backup lights
Dynamat Extreme on bottom of trunk
Charcoal air filter delete
Protective Paint film, paint correction & ceramic coating
Paint exhaust canister w/ VHT
Treat inside of rotor hubs w/ Permatex Rust Treatment
Bimmercode/Carly coding software
AutoSolutions SSK w/ weighted shift knob
Ultimate clutch pedal
BavSound amp for M2C (est. release Oct 2020)
BavSound Ghost under-seat sub upgrade kit
BavSound speaker upgrade kit
Crank bolt capture (post-warranty)
Dinan HE+ software
Dinan heat exchanger

I figure that's just about as far as I'm willing to go.

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Thanks! I'm not quite as brave - Not sure if I'd want to even code the car while within warranty. Maybe post-warranty I could go for some more power with a crank hub fix.
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Thanks! I'm not quite as brave - Not sure if I'd want to even code the car while within warranty. Maybe post-warranty I could go for some more power with a crank hub fix.
I'd only consider the Dinan for their (more or less) warranty.

The crank hub fix would be after warranty and just for piece of mind since I pretty much intend to be buried in this car!

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I *thought* about a full wrap, but I'm happy to do this-- and then ceramic coat the car. That should be enough protection for me.
I am scheduled next week for a full PPF wrap + full tint at $5500. That's a lot of money but I like the peace of mind.
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I pretty much intend to be buried in this car!
I feel the same way. This could be the last M car with a manual hand brake instead of a lousy button LOL.
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I am scheduled next week for a full PPF wrap + full tint at $5500. That's a lot of money but I like the peace of mind.
When they tint the rear window, BEWARE--

There have been a fair number of cases where water from the install travels down into the trunk and fries the amp.

Just something to keep an eye on.
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When they tint the rear window, BEWARE--

There have been a fair number of cases where water from the install travels down into the trunk and fries the amp.

Just something to keep an eye on.
Thanks for the tip! Taking it to a reputable shop in Boulder but I'll definitely warn them about this.
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Yes, I chatted with him via email-- the ones he had weren't up to standards, so he said he'd get back to me in a week or two.

His email is: esteban.valentin@gmail.com
Do you know if these are a set for the rear only or is this also for the front?
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Do you know if these are a set for the rear only or is this also for the front?
Sadly, front only.

To my knowledge, rear don't exist.

IND has some (front only) from Autotechnic as well-- but I think they're a fair bit smaller than the the AP ones. But that's just a guess based on looking at pictures.

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Sadly, front only.

To my knowledge, rear don't exist.

IND has some (front only) from Autotechnic as well-- but I think they're a fair bit smaller than the the AP ones. But that's just a guess based on looking at pictures.

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I wonder if they're worth the $90 if ones already spending quite a bit of coin on PPF? Anyone have those Arch Guards that can say if they are worth it?
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I wonder if they're worth the $90 if ones already spending quite a bit of coin on PPF? Anyone have those Arch Guards that can say if they are worth it?
From what I've read, a lot of people have said they can hear rocks/gravel hitting them.

To me, they'll be worth it-- even though I'm not thrilled with the look, I consider it cheap insurance on an expensive toy, PPF or not.

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At the risk of a bit of thread drift (but obviously of interest if you're in "The Wait" for an M2C--

Here's my PPF plan:

- 36-48" up the hood, then dropping down from cut line to front half of front quarter panels
- Entire front bumper
- Headlights
- A-pillars
- Rocker panels
- Area behind front and rear wheels (determined by body flare)
- Area in front of rear wheel (where OEM PPF is). OEM PPF will be pulled and new PPF will cover the entire area from the door edge to about 4" below the dogleg
- Horizontal portion of rear bumper below trunk
I like this plan. How much $ would this run? I'm just curious
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At the risk of a bit of thread drift (but obviously of interest if you're in "The Wait" for an M2C--

Here's my PPF plan:

- 36-48" up the hood, then dropping down from cut line to front half of front quarter panels
- Entire front bumper
- Headlights
- A-pillars
- Rocker panels
- Area behind front and rear wheels (determined by body flare)
- Area in front of rear wheel (where OEM PPF is). OEM PPF will be pulled and new PPF will cover the entire area from the door edge to about 4" below the dogleg
- Horizontal portion of rear bumper below trunk
I like this plan. How much $ would this run? I'm just curious
I'll let you know. Still waiting on Allocation.

Best guess? +/- $3000, with another $1200 or so for ceramic coating.
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I'll let you know. Still waiting on Allocation.

Best guess? +/- $3000, with another $1200 or so for ceramic coating.
I'm unsure about spending so much more. I already saw a paint chip today. I scraped my wheel at 300 miles (which I got fixed today). This never happens to me. I think I'm good for a while now...I'll just enjoy the car. LOL
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