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      12-14-2018, 11:27 AM   #45
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I believe I used Bimmerlink.

(I paid for both Bimmercode and Bimmerlink...it's stupid that you can't use 1 for all your needs.)
You can use BimmerLink to control your valves yes. Thats what I also do at the moment...

But, this is not permanent. It only works if the app is running an connected as well as your OBD dongle.

There is no way to code (ESYS, BimmerCode, etc.) the exhaust valve behaviour.
Oh shoot! I didn't know that! Haha. I just assumed that it was open after setting it! Doh!!!
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      12-15-2018, 01:39 AM   #46
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For u guys going stg2 w/dp I recommend

Sport+, Sport+, no MDM, LVL I DCT in auto.

Otherwise it's shots fired. LVL II or above is like auto gun fire. Will surely give a few of us out there PTSD.
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      12-15-2018, 09:28 AM   #47
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"What mode you drive in"

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      12-15-2018, 11:55 AM   #48
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M2 button: Sport+, Comfort, MDM. The M2 button is the closest to my thumb. Comfort steering transmits more feeling of the road in IMHO. I think the way that the throttle is mapped in Sport+ is smoother for manual shifting, especially 1st to 2nd gear. The exhaust is most aggressive in Sport+.

M1 button: Comfort, Efficient for less drone on a long freeway trip.

If I'm going to do DSC off then I just do it manually.

I have a 6MT so sport modes don't affect shifting. I have no problem using Sport+ when the car is cold since I'm in control of shifting rpm. I guess that someone with a DCT would need to consider shifting behavior.
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      12-15-2018, 12:57 PM   #49
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The exhaust is most aggressive in Sport+.
I too have a 6MT. I'm curious, is there an actual chart or info on how the valves work in Efficient, Sport and Sport+?

Sport+ does seem a little bit louder than Sport, but I don't know if that's the ASD tricking me. And a bit more burbles maybe. But I'd like to see if there's actually info on it.

I thought for example before that Sport+ left the valves open all the time, but I've read posts saying while it leaves the valves open the most, they are still not open all the time.

So with a tune, leaving valves open all the time, presumably one would get a slightly louder exhaust sound compared to Sport+ even?
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I too have a 6MT. I'm curious, is there an actual chart or info on how the valves work in Efficient, Sport and Sport+?

Sport+ does seem a little bit louder than Sport, but I don't know if that's the ASD tricking me. And a bit more burbles maybe. But I'd like to see if there's actually info on it.

I thought for example before that Sport+ left the valves open all the time, but I've read posts saying while it leaves the valves open the most, they are still not open all the time.

So with a tune, leaving valves open all the time, presumably one would get a slightly louder exhaust sound compared to Sport+ even?
I think Sport+ is louder because of the engine tune, it has more backfire pops. The valves are either open or closed. You can test it by driving with the windows open in town.
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      12-15-2018, 01:20 PM   #51
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M2 button: Sport+, Comfort, MDM. The M2 button is the closest to my thumb. Comfort steering transmits more feeling of the road in IMHO. I think the way that the throttle is mapped in Sport+ is smoother for manual shifting, especially 1st to 2nd gear. The exhaust is most aggressive in Sport+.

M1 button: Comfort, Efficient for less drone on a long freeway trip.

If I'm going to do DSC off then I just do it manually.
I do exactly the same, for exactly the same reasons

plus In efficiency mode your warmed up quicker
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I do exactly the same, for exactly the same reasons

plus In efficiency mode your warmed up quicker
Great minds think alike
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      01-17-2020, 09:45 AM   #53
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Quick question, does anyone have a jumpy throttle response in sport plus with high rev setting 3/3?
Passed D1 it's smooth
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      01-17-2020, 11:00 AM   #54
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When setting off out of the garage, I leave it on normal.

M1 Mode: When just driving around the neighborhood after the engine is warmed up, I hit M1 (Comfort EVERYTHING).

M2 Mode: When I get to some nice open roads, then it's all M2 (Sport+ EVERYTHING) time!
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      01-17-2020, 11:18 AM   #55
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My settings:

After startup until warm: Efficient, Sport Steering, D2 trans
M1 (once she is warm): Sport, Sport, D2 trans. This is for cruising around town
M2 (when the need arises): Sport +, Sport, D3/S3 trans.
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      01-17-2020, 11:36 AM   #56
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Custom programmed DME setup.

On startup I use the default which in my "MT" M2C is Efficient engine mode and Sport chassis mode (steering for MT). If I want it to sound like a beast on startup I click the M1 button which is programmed to MDM/Sport/Sport before starting the car. I have programmed the car to open the exhaust valves permanently in Sport and Sport+ engine modes. I've programmed engine Sport mode for mild mean but tasteful burbles, it's for all but the stealthiest situations. Sport+ is for car meets :-), it's programmed for all out burble mania.

Normal good weather driving: MDM/Sport (mild burbles)/Sport

Normal good weather driving stealth: MDM/Efficient (quiet as a mouse)/Sport

Wet, cold or gravel: Sport/Sport, no MDM

Long boring freeway drive: Efficient/Sport, no MDM because of Cruise Control limitation

Car meet, show off mode: MDM/Sport+/Sport
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      01-17-2020, 01:11 PM   #57
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Sport for steering & throttle.
Traction almost always set to MDM.

Thought I'd like the popular Sport+ throttle with comfort steering combo, but Sport throttle is juicy enough with a bit more control, although Sport+ seems to slow the car better off-throttle. Comfort steering feels completely wrong to me for the weight distribution of the car, and it doesn't return to center the way I like. Sport+ steering is too heavy despite the good off-center feel.

I also came from an M240ix. That one I liked most in DSC OFF mode for aggressive driving, which I think was standard throttle, sport+ exhaust & faster shifts with the ZF. On the highway I liked Sport with the gearbox in D.
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      01-17-2020, 01:55 PM   #59
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Sport/Sport 99% of the time.
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You can use BimmerLink to control your valves yes. Thats what I also do at the moment...

But, this is not permanent. It only works if the app is running an connected as well as your OBD dongle.

There is no way to code (ESYS, BimmerCode, etc.) the exhaust valve behaviour.
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I usually leave it in the default mode until the oil temp is good (e.g., efficient/sport) and then hit the M2 button, which I have set up for sport+/sport+, MDM mode). I set M1 to sport/sport, which I sometimes use while the car is warming up; as far as I can tell, the oil seems to reach temperature at the same time in both efficient and sport engine modes (vs. with the extra cooling provided in sport+).
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After warm up..
M1 dsc on
Sport+ for engine
Steering sport
S2 for gear

M2 dsc mdm
Sport+ for engine
Steering sport+
S3 for gear
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M1 -
Steering Comfort
Tranny 2 Shift Speed and Automatic
Throttle Sport
MDM traction

M2 -
Steering Comfort
Tranny 3 Shift Speed and Manual
Throttle Sport Plus
MDM Traction

A few things I've learned... there is almost exclusively 0 value to having steering in anything other than comfort unless you just want artificially heavy steering, it does nothing for feel or response. Another thing I found bizarre is that the car on startup is in efficient mode throttle and sport steering (beyond me why it wouldn't be comfort by default). For daily driving, I use my M1 mode, for Fun driving M2...
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Thanks. Checked their documentation today. It works like bimmerlink -> as long as your app is connected, but not permanently.
Unless something has changed recently its the same with carly.

Cant force the flap in open position. You can open it and disconnect it.
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M1 -
Steering Comfort
Tranny 2 Shift Speed and Automatic
Throttle Sport
MDM traction

M2 -
Steering Comfort
Tranny 3 Shift Speed and Manual
Throttle Sport Plus
MDM Traction

A few things I've learned... there is almost exclusively 0 value to having steering in anything other than comfort unless you just want artificially heavy steering, it does nothing for feel or response. Another thing I found bizarre is that the car on startup is in efficient mode throttle and sport steering (beyond me why it wouldn't be comfort by default). For daily driving, I use my M1 mode, for Fun driving M2...
I like your settings. I too think the Sport is a bit much for everyday driving, and shouldn't be on at startup for sure.

What I do like is that start/stop is default off in the M2. That's a first I've seen
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I like your settings. I too think the Sport is a bit much for everyday driving, and shouldn't be on at startup for sure.

What I do like is that start/stop is default off in the M2. That's a first I've seen
I think if you turn the start/stop off with the button above the starter button, it'll just remember for the end of time (in the U.S.)

I wish the steering worked the same way. After getting used to Sport, I switched to comfort and have decided I like it significantly more. I can't foresee a time when i'd ever want to use sport or sport + steering in the future, i think it would honestly mess with me in hard driving to suddenly have different steering effort.

That means i have to burn one M button (M1) for just my standard driving mode (Comfort steering, eco throttle, full stability.)

That leaves one button for fun mode (Comfort steering, sport + throttle, MDM.)

If the steering defaulted back to comfort instead of sport every time i turned the car on or off or used an M button, i'd have one button set to "half fun" and one set to "full fun" with no TCS whatsoever so I could do my own rev matches.
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