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      06-01-2018, 03:13 PM   #89
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... I didn’t pick up on any tramlining until I was on track at speed/under load.
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Very easy to live with on the street so far. No rain yet though hahaha
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Can you explain what you mean by not optimal? What issues does it have?
A tire on a narrow rim and on a wider rim will behave differently to side forces. Of course it will also depend on the tire carcass design... But think of the geometries like this (greatly exaggerated). This can possibly, depending on other things like camber, camber gain and whatnot, affect shoulder wear.
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That has been the question I’ve been looking to answer. Do 265/30 on the front stock 9” wheels fit right? I know the F90’s came with 255’s but I’ve read threads where they started putting 265’s on the front & 295’s on the rear. I’ve seen several F87 owners post that it fits fine too. My goal is to remove all stretch in the tires.
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That has been the question I’ve been looking to answer. Do 265/30 on the front stock 9” wheels fit right? I know the F90’s came with 255’s but I’ve read threads where they started putting 265’s on the front & 295’s on the rear. I’ve seen several F87 owners post that it fits fine too. My goal is to remove all stretch in the tires.
I ran 265 on 9" for years, so yes it absolutely works.

But a slightly wider rim is better. Better steering response. And possibly (depending on a lot of other things) less shoulder wear when on racetrack.
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My setup worked out very nicely. No rubbing that I can see. So:

Front:

TrofeoR 265/30-19
OEM 9" ET29 wheel plus 10mm spacer
3,1 degree camber
Just very sligthly lowered to Öhlins Road & Track default setup
Tire bulges a bit on the narrow rim, will swap to 10" ET40 plus wider spacer

Rear:

TrofeoR 295/30-19
OEM 10” ET40 wheel
2 degrees camber
Just very sligthly lowered to Öhlins Road & Track default setup
Tire sits very nicely on the 10" rim


Great tires! Didn't actually have any tramlining on track either but the track surface was in good condition. Way more grip to put the power down out of second gear corners!! Car was slightly oversteered when the tires were cold and very very nicely balanced when they had heated up. Set new PB.
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My setup worked out very nicely. No rubbing that I can see. So:

Front:

TrofeoR 265/30-19
OEM 9" ET29 wheel plus 10mm spacer
3,1 degree camber
Just very sligthly lowered to Öhlins Road & Track default setup
Tire bulges a bit on the narrow rim, will swap to 10" ET40 plus wider spacer

Rear:

TrofeoR 295/30-19
OEM 10” ET40 wheel
2 degrees camber
Just very sligthly lowered to Öhlins Road & Track default setup
Tire sits very nicely on the 10" rim


Great tires! Didn't actually have any tramlining on track either but the track surface was in good condition. Way more grip to put the power down out of second gear corners!! Car was slightly oversteered when the tires were cold and very very nicely balanced when they had heated up. Set new PB.
That’s great to hear. I’ll have to try them on a different track.

What hot pressures did you end up at?
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2,3 to 2,4 bar. I didn't experiment with higher but will try on coming track meets.

The course we were at on sunday is a very special high speed slalom that is very very telling when it comes to your car's balance and tire performance, here's a video from my PB (and some swedish text about TrofeoR )

https://rejsa.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1528494#1528494



EDIT: 2.3 to 2.4 bar equals aprox 33-35 PSI

EDIT2: your 38-40 PSI would then be aprox 2.6 to 2.8 bar. That is extremely high IMHO. Well, 2.6 is not but 2.8 is

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2,3 to 2,4 bar. I didn't experiment with higher but will try on coming track meets.

The course we were at on sunday is a very special high speed slalom that is very very telling when it comes to your car's balance and tire performance, here's a video from my PB (and some swedish text about TrofeoR )

https://rejsa.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1528494#1528494



EDIT: 2.3 to 2.4 bar equals aprox 33-35 PSI

EDIT2: your 38-40 PSI would then be aprox 2.6 to 2.8 bar. That is extremely high IMHO. Well, 2.6 is not but 2.8 is
I’ll try lower again, but anything under 35 and the car was extremely loose. A buddy of mine does a lot of race coaching and he said his customers’ Lambo’s grip best with their Trofeo Rs around 40psi. I thought that was high, so asked another racer/car setup engineer and he also said the Trofeo’s like high pressures.

Ambient was 50-70F when I ran and had rained the night before. I was able to pull 1.1g with them consistently, tho, and wear looked good.
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I'll give it a try :-)
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Note I went for 30 profile though. Both 265/30-19 front

https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...h=9&offset2=29
How much inner clearance upfront do you have between 265/30/19 sidewall and ohlins strut with OE front wheels ??

Any rubbing ?
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TrofeoR tend to be wider I heard
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How much inner clearance upfront do you have between 265/30/19 sidewall and ohlins strut with OE front wheels ??

Any rubbing ?
Spacer is needed with the OEM 9" wheel. A 5mm spacer just clears the Ohlins strut (the height adjustment nut) with NO space for tire flex when cornering. I use a 10mm spacer which leaves some millimeters for flex.
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TrofeoR tend to be wider I heard
I thought so too. But in the end it seems they are not. I measured actual widths:

NOT mounted on a wheel the 295 was crazy wide 325mm! But once mounted it had a total width of 297mm. Note that's total width of the whole tire, not the width of the contact patch.
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For another data point, I’m running a 9.5” with ET33 and no spacer with the Dinan coilovers. No rubbing.
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For another data point, I’m running a 9.5” with ET33 and no spacer with the Dinan coilovers. No rubbing.
Are these 19 or 18 inch?

I am getting some Apex 18"x 9.5" ET 33 and currently have Ohlins ...but no camber plates. I am curious what is the max rubber I can run with spacers but no camber plates? The guys at Apex advised max of 245/40 18....but I was curious if I can't go up to either 255/40 18 or 265/35 18...does anyone have first hand experience with 18 inch max rubber with Ohlins and spacers?
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I ran 265/35-18 on Apex 18x10 ET33 with 10mm spacer without any problems with my Öhlins R&T. BUT with 3,1 degrees camber.
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What’s the max camber you can set without camber plates?
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What’s the max camber you can set without camber plates?
Not adjustable at all AFAIK.
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Are these 19 or 18 inch?

I am getting some Apex 18"x 9.5" ET 33 and currently have Ohlins ...but no camber plates. I am curious what is the max rubber I can run with spacers but no camber plates? The guys at Apex advised max of 245/40 18....but I was curious if I can't go up to either 255/40 18 or 265/35 18...does anyone have first hand experience with 18 inch max rubber with Ohlins and spacers?
19’s.

I think you’d be ok with 265/35/18 and a 3-5mm spacer upfront, but I’d ask the broader audience in the other forum sections.
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Guys, I'm currently on stock wheel and RE71R. Performance is acceptable. But my issue is, 265 35 19 on rear is a little too tall and 265 on 10j is a little too stretched.

I'm thinking to upgrade rear wheel/tire to 19 10.5j and 295 30 19 to fix the issue.

Will it rub with 20mm lowered MPS and stock camber? The exact tire I'm thinking to do is AD08R on 295 30 19. What else (size/brand) do you recommend? I don't want to go too extreme BTW.

I noticed someone doing fine on 295 30 19 lowered. However OP mentioned TrofeoR rubs but that's really a 315mm tire.

It'd be frustrating me end up buying 10.5j wheel and having to stick to 265 35 19, looking more stretched than it already does.

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