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      01-09-2020, 06:39 AM   #155
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I find the kick down concept too much like a normal AT, and that's why I don't use. (aka floor it and go)

As stated before: if I need to do a fast acceleration - I do it myself. A few paddle clicks - you are gone!
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Yep, on previous DCT i normally use the stick to shift when changing down manually, I don't like wheel mounted paddles.

At least the BMW DTC stick shift is the "right" motorsport way round i.e push forward for downshift.

Unlike VAG cars which are back to front....

Funny that normal porsche PDK is also backwards, but they turned it round on their GT cars! Just to confuse folks...
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Funny that normal porsche PDK is also backwards, but they turned it round on their GT cars! Just to confuse folks...
They put the ignition on the wrong side of the steering wheel too, LOL.
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They put the ignition on the wrong side of the steering wheel too, LOL.
THIS! It's so annoying, I don't own any Porsche's but have driven a few, and putting the weird shaped fob on the wrong side of the wheel on turning it with my non-dominant hand was one of the weirdest car experiences ever...
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THIS! It's so annoying, I don't own any Porsche's but have driven a few, and putting the weird shaped fob on the wrong side of the wheel on turning it with my non-dominant hand was one of the weirdest car experiences ever...
It takes a while to get used to especially if you have other cars that have the ignition in the conventional location.
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There was a reason, nowadays it is only a tribute to the past.
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?? RHD cars all have the key on the right hand (door) side. (every car I've ever driven). That said BMW push start is on the left side, but keys were always on the right.

I assumed LHD cars would all have the key on the left hand side?
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Forgive my ignorance as I've been driving stick my whole life, but is a kickdown essentially "flooring" it when you are in a high gear? I was considering DCT for my next car, but this has me second guessing that decision. So as long as you are only flooring it from a stopped position, then this can be avoided? What happens if you want to pass someone aggressively on the highway?
I've never used kickdown once on M2C. I only let it change it's own gears in a car park or traffic jam.

Kickdown is a throwback to the slush box cars.
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The dct shifts so fast just downshift manually with the left paddle to help alleviate any shock to the drivetrain, sure it is not as fun but it'll save your car.
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If you hold the downshift paddle it will drop you to the lowest gear same as kickdown but before you even hit the gas!

I never use it as I am worried about the SCH and trans lol.
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If you hold the downshift paddle it will drop you to the lowest gear same as kickdown but before you even hit the gas!

I never use it as I am worried about the SCH and trans lol.
The large downshift will still make the revs jump suddenly which still isn't good for the crank hub, but better than the kick down. Imo just tap the paddle for every gear you want to drop and give a split second in between to let the motor rev up.
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The large downshift will still make the revs jump suddenly which still isn't good for the crank hub, but better than the kick down. Imo just tap the paddle for every gear you want to drop and give a split second in between to let the motor rev up.
That is how I always do it too. I have never used the max downshift option, not even on track.
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Rev matching should help keep everything nice and smooth.

15k miles and no spinning hub... Finding some wood
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      02-04-2020, 08:40 AM   #168
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At least the BMW DTC stick shift is the "right" motorsport way round i.e push forward for downshift.

Unlike VAG cars which are back to front....

Funny that normal porsche PDK is also backwards, but they turned it round on their GT cars! Just to confuse folks...
So funny enough, my fiance's 2019 Mazda 3 Hatch has it the correct way. Back is up, forward is down.
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?? RHD cars all have the key on the right hand (door) side. (every car I've ever driven). That said BMW push start is on the left side, but keys were always on the right.

I assumed LHD cars would all have the key on the left hand side?
Nope, all non-Porsche LHD cars have it on the right also.
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Nope, all non-Porsche LHD cars have it on the right also.
In RHD markets the traditional key start was / is still on the door side (rhs) on pretty much all cars, but push starts seem to have moved to the centre console side.

So is always been normal in all traditional cars for me to start engine and check neutral at the same time...

Is US which side was a key start usually?
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Hub Issue

I asked some BMW dealer shop techs the other day at two different dealers and they had no clue about any hub issue? He also told me if they had a major issue they would do some kind of recall. So I'm starting to wonder about this. I'm doing oil every 5k and dealer does free one just don't reset oil counter. Just love this car to death it's the wife daily driver and it has enough power in stock form for her. Still a blast for me to drive and I got her away from the mini that she loved. Her last four cars were minis.

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I heard the M2C is far more susceptible to SCH due to their low hanging udder.


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Wait I don't think this makes sense, also what does low hanging udder even mean?

The engines are exactly the same between the M2C, M3, and M4, with the exception that the M2C is also detuned compared to the other two. Logical reasoning would deem that since power causes an increase in spun crank hubs, a detuned car would make it less likely to occur. So therefore the M2C should ideally have a lower chance of a spun crank hub compared to the M3 and M4 and should even have a little bit of tuning head space before the risk level exceed or catch up to what the M3 and M4 experience.

If you're talking about low hanging udder as in the car is low that is irrelevant to the spun crank hub issue, that is another cause for concern in oil cooler damage from road debris. But this issue is easily fixed with the various underbody guards for sale. Or being extremely cautious and alert to any road debris and high points you may be driving over. Pretty much just being used to driving a low car.
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Funny that normal porsche PDK is also backwards, but they turned it round on their GT cars! Just to confuse folks...
They've removed it entirely on 992, fitted tiny paddles and recommend that you drive the car as an automatic.

There were lots of things I disliked about the 992 but this was number 1.
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In RHD markets the traditional key start was / is still on the door side (rhs) on pretty much all cars, but push starts seem to have moved to the centre console side.

So is always been normal in all traditional cars for me to start engine and check neutral at the same time...

Is US which side was a key start usually?
In the US the button is always on the side where the key would be. So, the right side, toward the center console. The only cars I'm not sure about are Porsches.
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In RHD markets the traditional key start was / is still on the door side (rhs) on pretty much all cars, but push starts seem to have moved to the centre console side.

So is always been normal in all traditional cars for me to start engine and check neutral at the same time...

Is US which side was a key start usually?
In the US the button is always on the side where the key would be. So, the right side, toward the center console. The only cars I'm not sure about are Porsches.
Porsche was on the opposite side for La Mans racing. Since drivers run to their cars, it's the fastest to get started.
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