M2 CS Price for the US: $83,600 (plus $995 Destination)

medphysdave · 06-07-2020, 07:07 PM

Car Magazine UK article

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/bmw/m2-cs/

Pretty flat and uninspiring review. I had a tough time following some of the analogies. Pretty sure there was a reinforcement of don't get cup2s if you value your safety. Brakes good, 6mt bad, twitchy chassis, if you've got the coin then why not, but you're not missing much if you don't.

SeanWRT · 06-07-2020, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by medphysdave

Car Magazine UK article

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/bmw/m2-cs/

They don't seem to be really impressed with all the cliche...

DarkstarZero · 06-07-2020, 09:56 PM

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Car Magazine UK article

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/bmw/m2-cs/

It's like he just vomited words on the page.

I don't care about lap times or numbers or school run practicality, I want to know how much fun it is. I miss Clarkson reviews.

JCZ5 · 06-07-2020, 10:25 PM

Honestly, no one is going to say anything other than great things on the M2CS. Even if it is 10% better than the M2C, reviewers are going to say this is worth it blah blah.

The M2CS is the most hyped modern performance BMW. Also the most drawn out model in recent memory in terms of marketing. There is now a certain expectation that it has to be good or what is the point of this long wait...😂

JggyM2 · 06-09-2020, 11:09 AM

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Dave

'Scratched barrel issue?'

The wheel looks in perfect functioning order to me, and BMW tire/wheel insurance does not cover wheel 'replacement' for a 'scratch.'

For additional cost, 'scratch repair' coverage can be obtained but, again, nobody going to replace a scratched wheel with a new wheel.

I do not even see a scratch but, supposing one exists, that is purely cosmetic and should be an expected 'road war wound' . . . particularly with a 'track focused' vehicle designed to be, well, beat on.

Once you start beating on that M2CS over some NC back roads and track, the least of you concerns will be wheel scratches, paint chips, windshield nicks, etc that accrue. . . pushing the (safe) limits of the M2CS performance will become your primary, if not sole interest.

///AVM

https://www.bmwofchampaign.com/asset...protection.pdf

I'm glad you posted this. I was under the wrong impression that the blemish repair was included. We'll see what I can negotiate for the plan. I don't plan to PPF the car because the little dings and chips don't bother me. I do plan to ceramic coat it because I do like a clean car and don't like to spend a lot of time cleaning.

True, ceramic coat will allow easier cleaning of the car. PPF will definitely do as good a job as possible protecting it from dings and dents over time. It will just keep it a cleaner so maybe worth it for those who do NOT want touch up paint in the future.

JustChris · 06-09-2020, 04:04 PM

Reviews stating to pop up. Saw a CAR magazine one in the UK so shared in a thread.

medphysdave · 06-09-2020, 10:23 PM

It must be frustrating to not have anything new to write about.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/06/09/b...he-u-s-market/

medphysdave · 06-09-2020, 10:32 PM

eBay bargain :P

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-...12448-223-4239

medphysdave · 06-10-2020, 06:17 PM

Cup 2 tire sensors.

https://www.michelin.com/en/press-re...connect-ready/

https://www.automobile-sportive.com/...igent-20200610

sdhotwn · 06-10-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by medphysdave

Cup 2 tire sensors.

https://www.michelin.com/en/press-re...connect-ready/

https://www.automobile-sportive.com/...igent-20200610

Interesting, curios if the sensors will near included with the car or we'll have to spring for those too.

sdhotwn · 06-10-2020, 06:34 PM

https://m.tirerack.com/tpms/detail.j...market+Systems

Here's the connection kit if it isn't already fitted.

lax01 · 06-10-2020, 06:51 PM

Page for desktop users: https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail...market+Systems

So is this another revenue source for Michelin? What is this $500 kit going to give me? More accurate pressure and temperature readings (for on track readings?)??

Temp across the tire width (doubtful)?

sdhotwn · 06-10-2020, 06:58 PM

That's one of the things I was trying to figure out - where the sensor was located, how good of surface temps it provides etc. Obviously real race teams use in tire sensing, but it's not the same as this. I think there is some value in temp and pressure profile over a session I guess, but not going to replace Pyro probe across the tread for checking alignment and pressure values it would seem.

AlpsRider · 06-10-2020, 07:06 PM

The Michelin Connect user manual.

https://www.michelinman.com/on/deman...ser-manual.pdf

I have been a tire pressure fanatic for a long time. It takes awhile to figure out how pressure, ambient temperature and road conditions affect handling with a given cold temperature tire pressure. Sometimes the pressure needs to be changed mid drive. It's kind of an abstract art with many variables. This Connect app might make it all easier, but it's really a track tool.

medphysdave · 06-10-2020, 07:24 PM

I love data logging and datamining so it's just another way to geek out. Looks like they also make a ps4s connect tire as well. If I have to add the kit I'd probably pass, but if it were somehow integrated into the car I'd be all about it.

F87EVO · 06-11-2020, 01:23 PM

For anyone who speaks german !

Attached wetransfer link :

https://we.tl/t-6PawjPdLJT?src=dnl

medphysdave · 06-11-2020, 02:05 PM

Is Hockenheim now listed as 1s faster than previous run. 1:54.8 vs 1:55.8? 6MT vs DCT?

F87EVO · 06-11-2020, 02:49 PM

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Is Hockenheim now listed as 1s faster than previous run. 1:54.8 vs 1:55.8? 6MT vs DCT?

Inside the car it seems DCT

Chapman1977 · 06-11-2020, 03:01 PM

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Is Hockenheim now listed as 1s faster than previous run. 1:54.8 vs 1:55.8? 6MT vs DCT?

Datasheet states DKG (German for DCT).

F87EVO · 06-11-2020, 03:18 PM

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Is Hockenheim now listed as 1s faster than previous run. 1:54.8 vs 1:55.8? 6MT vs DCT?

We got a better laptime

medphysdave · 06-11-2020, 05:39 PM

Less than a second behind the 718 GT4, not to shabby. I'm still getting the slow version

sdhotwn · 06-11-2020, 06:34 PM

45 kilos lighter than the competition as weighed. Lots of glowing commentary. I printed it and read it using Google lens.

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medphysdave Brigadier General 4548 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	Car Magazine UK article https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/bmw/m2-cs/ Pretty flat and uninspiring review. I had a tough time following some of the analogies. Pretty sure there was a reinforcement of don't get cup2s if you value your safety. Brakes good, 6mt bad, twitchy chassis, if you've got the coin then why not, but you're not missing much if you don't. Last edited by medphysdave; 06-07-2020 at 07:28 PM..
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medphysdave Brigadier General 4548 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	Cup 2 tire sensors. https://www.michelin.com/en/press-re...connect-ready/ https://www.automobile-sportive.com/...igent-20200610 Last edited by medphysdave; 06-10-2020 at 06:25 PM..
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sdhotwn Mmmm... Bavarian 2129 Rep 1,690 Posts Drives: M2 CS, X5 45e, i3, Cayman S Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Wisconsin, USA iTrader: (0)	https://m.tirerack.com/tpms/detail.j...market+Systems Here's the connection kit if it isn't already fitted.
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lax01 Major 793 Rep 1,366 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	Page for desktop users: https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail...market+Systems So is this another revenue source for Michelin? What is this $500 kit going to give me? More accurate pressure and temperature readings (for on track readings?)?? Temp across the tire width (doubtful)?
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sdhotwn Mmmm... Bavarian 2129 Rep 1,690 Posts Drives: M2 CS, X5 45e, i3, Cayman S Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Wisconsin, USA iTrader: (0)	That's one of the things I was trying to figure out - where the sensor was located, how good of surface temps it provides etc. Obviously real race teams use in tire sensing, but it's not the same as this. I think there is some value in temp and pressure profile over a session I guess, but not going to replace Pyro probe across the tread for checking alignment and pressure values it would seem.
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AlpsRider Brigadier General 2864 Rep 3,841 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, LBB, 6MT Join Date: May 2015 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	The Michelin Connect user manual. https://www.michelinman.com/on/deman...ser-manual.pdf I have been a tire pressure fanatic for a long time. It takes awhile to figure out how pressure, ambient temperature and road conditions affect handling with a given cold temperature tire pressure. Sometimes the pressure needs to be changed mid drive. It's kind of an abstract art with many variables. This Connect app might make it all easier, but it's really a track tool.
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medphysdave Brigadier General 4548 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	I love data logging and datamining so it's just another way to geek out. Looks like they also make a ps4s connect tire as well. If I have to add the kit I'd probably pass, but if it were somehow integrated into the car I'd be all about it.
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medphysdave Brigadier General 4548 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	Is Hockenheim now listed as 1s faster than previous run. 1:54.8 vs 1:55.8? 6MT vs DCT? Last edited by medphysdave; 06-11-2020 at 02:13 PM..
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medphysdave Brigadier General 4548 Rep 4,658 Posts Drives: M2 CS \| 85 of 592 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (3)	Less than a second behind the 718 GT4, not to shabby. I'm still getting the slow version
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sdhotwn Mmmm... Bavarian 2129 Rep 1,690 Posts Drives: M2 CS, X5 45e, i3, Cayman S Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Wisconsin, USA iTrader: (0)	45 kilos lighter than the competition as weighed. Lots of glowing commentary. I printed it and read it using Google lens.
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