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Also, the Benelux thing seems really really weird. Makes no sense at all when you look at market size.
"In terms of total sales volume for combined M and M Performance sales, Australia is currently placed fourth worldwide. The latest figures offered, to the end of March and showing actual retail sales versus registration data (as used with the local VFACTS system), place the United States well out in front (7703), with Germany next (5497) and the United Kingdom close behind (5087). Australia's position as the fourth-biggest M market in the world is based on 1143 total M-branded retail sales for the first quarter, just ahead of Switzerland on 1131 and Canada on 1116." https://premium.goauto.com.au/austra...r-bmw-m-share/ |
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Netherlands - 30 Ireland Australia - 75 South Africa Spain - 75 UK - 104 Canada - 120 France - 70 Germany Switzerland Italy - 44 649
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Which doesn't make sense since the depreciation is less on the M2 over 3 years than the M3 M4, so the residuals should be better. Not just from an absolute perspective, but percentage as well.
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Yeah, no kidding, but I guess in the car business there are plenty of times when leasing "economics" makes no sense (i.e. car makers trying to move product)...like last year at this time when you could lease an M3 CS (with MSRP over $100k) for about the same or less as an M2 Competition ($62k MSRP). Truly a bit crazy.
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Germany has a large piece of the pie. Other regions I expect to get allocations would be middle East, Mexico, Asia, and South America. I thought I read somewhere that the Philippines were expecting allocations. China and Japan?
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If we are considering the US rumored number, we are looking at 1649 total. Only 551 left at that point. |
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I would expect you're right, in the event the US has the requisite demand. I would imagine these numbers will be fluid as BMW figures out where the CS is going to sell easily and in the greatest volumes.
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"399 Enzo + 1 for the Pope" is the official Ferrari tag line. However... "How many did you say? As for being one of 400 built, thanks to historians like Gerald Roush of the Ferrari Market Letter, a well-known member of the serial number swapping group to which I belong, we have confirmed records on 446 Enzos to date, and the list is growing. This is obviously well over the official number of 399 plus 1 used by Ferrari. How can this be? Very simple; Ferrari is a “for profit” organization, and once the development and production costs of the Enzo were paid for, each extra car delivered at $650,000 or so had a very large profit margin built in. Add a lot of wealthy and well-connected owners who were miffed that they were not on the lucky list of 400, and you have a burgeoning market making wealthy clients happy by making “extra” cars. So much for the one of 400 myth…." (source: here - see also here and here) "I'm up to 501 Enzo serial numbers, and have it on good authority that between 520-540 were built." "My count does not include those cars whose VINs were re-assigned to brand new Enzos that were dubbed as "repaired" when they were really replacements. So, I guess you can add another, say, half dozen or so to the list if you count those as well." (source: here) See also: Quote:
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Lucky Canadians just got their CS configurator:
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1670651 The Canadian price starts at $97,750. My quick Google assistant conversion to US dollars is $73,549. Apparently the price varies by Province. |
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They may, but I doubt the profit margin is anywhere near large enough to cause BMW to make more than previously mentioned. What's the current profit margin on an M2, less than 10%? A regular 911 has a profit margin of almost 50%, the Enzo's margins were probably INSANE even compared to the current 911. They very well could make more 2200, but the demand would have to be exceptionally high.
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