Thoughts on M2 ride quality

Legal Bill · 01-12-2016, 12:37 PM

The press information I have read says nothing about different suspension settings in the M2, so I suspect there will be only one. What are people's thoughts about the ride quality of the M2? while I suspect it will be stiffer than the M235i, I'm wondering how much stiffer? 95% of the time I will be using my next car as a daily driver in traffic. The M235i that I test drove seemed fine for that service and would be very livable by my standards. How do you think the M2 will compare?

MR. · 01-12-2016, 12:40 PM

Compare it to a M3/M4... I think it will be similar.

MR

PrematureApex · 01-12-2016, 12:41 PM

Perhaps we should just wait until the car is driven/reviewed?

If you want to guess at the state of BMWs road-worthy standards for ride in an M car these days, maybe go drive an M3/4 on the standard suspension?

Legal Bill · 01-12-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PrematureApex

Perhaps we should just wait until the car is driven/reviewed?

If you want to guess at the state of BMWs road-worthy standards for ride in an M car these days, maybe go drive an M3/4 on the standard suspension?

I'd love to wait, but I just place an order for an M235, so if I want to change it I have to act fast.

Legal Bill · 01-12-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MR.

Compare it to a M3/M4... I think it will be similar.

MR

A very good suggestion, thanks. I just read up on the M4 and saw many features that are the same as the description of the M2 suspension. As the M2 suspension seems to come directly from the M4/M3 the ride would probably be similar.

AlpsRider · 01-12-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Legal Bill

A very good suggestion, thanks. I just read up on the M4 and saw many features that are the same as the description of the M2 suspension. As the M2 suspension seems to come directly from the M4/M3 the ride would probably be similar.

My friend just bought an M4, he said it is a pretty stiff ride for daily driving on rough roads, but his doesn't have adaptive suspension. The M235i has adaptive suspension standard in the US.

Legal Bill · 01-12-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpsRider

My friend just bought an M4, he said it is a pretty stiff ride for daily driving on rough roads, but his doesn't have adaptive suspension. The M235i has adaptive suspension standard in the US.

This is true. But form what I read, the M2 only comes with one suspension setting.

SW19 · 01-12-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Legal Bill

This is true. But form what I read, the M2 only comes with one suspension setting.

I have driven the M3 with the standard suspension and the adaptive suspension.I preferred the standard suspension because I like a firmer sports car suspension.I would have never used the softer settings on the adaptive suspension system.I am very happy that the M2 just has the standard suspension.

Definitely find a dealer that has an M3 with the standard suspension and decide if it is to firm of a suspension for you.

The price of the M235i is also very close to what the M2 costs,so IMO it doesn't seem worth it anymore to order the M235i unless you need x drive.

hans007 · 01-12-2016, 05:18 PM

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I have driven the M3 with the standard suspension and the adaptive suspension.I preferred the standard suspension because I like a firmer sports car suspension.I would have never used the softer settings on the adaptive suspension system.I am very happy that the M2 just has the standard suspension.

Definitely find a dealer that has an M3 with the standard suspension and decide if it is to firm of a suspension for you.

The price of the M235i is also very close to what the M2 costs,so IMO it doesn't seem worth it anymore to order the M235i unless you need x drive.

ive been in a friends f80 with standard suspension. if its anything like that it should be fine ii'd think... though my friend only had the 18" rims.

on his car with 18s and standard suspension, the ride really didn't feel much worse than my f30 with m-sport and 18s. i'm guessing not being on runflats helps the m3 be less firm too

gthal · 01-12-2016, 07:11 PM

Didn't MR. confirm the M2 suspension, although passive, had a firm and soft damper setting based on his discussion with the BMW guy at the auto show?

RobC2 · 01-12-2016, 07:31 PM

Is this the same Legal Bill from the (NE)S2KI forums way back? It's always funny to see other former S2000 guys and what they buy next. I would be willing to bet that this car is more on the stiff side, but not intolerable. A good indication might be the how the 1M is set up compared to the 135i.

SW19 · 01-12-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gthal

Didn't MR. confirm the M2 suspension, although passive, had a firm and soft damper setting based on his discussion with the BMW guy at the auto show?

Looks like you correct based on this pic that he posted.

hsb · 01-13-2016, 05:38 AM

Chassis only affect the sterring, NOT the non-adjustable dampeners.

WAY · 01-13-2016, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hsb

Chassis only affect the sterring, NOT the non-adjustable dampeners.

I think you are 100% correct there. Mystery solved!

metrickid · 01-13-2016, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hsb

Chassis only affect the sterring, NOT the non-adjustable dampeners.

Exactly, I don't even know why there is a debate around this.

BEM-S4 · 01-13-2016, 08:50 AM

Yeah try and drive a 435 and M4 back to back, that's prob your best comp for now.

gthal · 01-13-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hsb

Chassis only affect the sterring, NOT the non-adjustable dampeners.

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Originally Posted by WAY

I think you are 100% correct there. Mystery solved!

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Originally Posted by metrickid

Exactly, I don't even know why there is a debate around this.

This is exactly what I thought but contrary to what the BMW rep told MR. Misinformation from BMW themselves is crazy.

hsb · 01-13-2016, 09:11 AM

It might also affect the LSD, most likely

WAY · 01-13-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gthal

This is exactly what I thought but contrary to what the BMW rep told MR. Misinformation from BMW themselves is crazy.

The rep is likely wrong. On my M135i, BMW still calls the suspension adaptive M suspension even though there is no "adaptive" function to it. All it does is have a softer comfort mode and a stiffer sports mode.

MR. · 01-13-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

The rep is likely wrong. On my M135i, BMW still calls the suspension adaptive M suspension even though there is no "adaptive" function to it. All it does is have a softer comfort mode and a stiffer sports mode.

That is what it is... This BMW guy is making more mistakes then a kid learning to walk. It is annoying. I double checked other information today at my dealer and again he was wrong. If I ever gonna see him again, I will tell him the Bimmerpost community suggests him to do his homework or find another job.

MR

Legal Bill · 01-13-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RobC2

Is this the same Legal Bill from the (NE)S2KI forums way back? It's always funny to see other former S2000 guys and what they buy next. I would be willing to bet that this car is more on the stiff side, but not intolerable. A good indication might be the how the 1M is set up compared to the 135i.

Yes, it is me. The one and only Legal Bill. Accept no substitutes!

And I still have the S2000.

IEDEI · 01-13-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RobC2

A good indication might be the how the 1M is set up compared to the 135i.

having owned both....i will say the 1M feels like a stiffer, more taut version of the E9X M3 than the 135.......the 1M suspension setup is taken exactly from the M3 competition pack...but with a more more aggressive damping as far as i remember...

My feeling is if you want to know how the M2 suspension will feel try the F8X M3 as that will be closest.

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