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      10-09-2018, 02:21 PM   #45
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what happened with that exhaust - is it broken...
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I like most of it...but that muffler is just absurd. I can't believe BMW cannot fix this horrendous eyesore.

I also can't imagine buying a pretty expensive sports car, knowing full well I have to immediately spend more money (with "BMW tax") on acceptable looking and sounding exhaust.
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Where is the circular CSL hole in the front bumper
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Looks like it is equipped with DCT (silver paddle shifter), like every CS/CSL/ GTS of the last few generations of M cars

Here is to hoping it is offered with a manual as well....
Historically, no manuals for CSL/GTS variants.
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And this is why I skipped the Comp. The timing coincides with the S58. Given the higher tolerances I wonder if this will be the first M2 to get it.
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I really like the high-performance, carbon fiber/magnesium antenna on the trunk. This is in addition to the shark fin. I heard from BMW-M it's part of the water-cooling kit...
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If BMW could only get rid of this hideous gap above BMW logo where the hood ends.. I do not know if there is a word for this, but I assume you know what I mean. Recently parked my 1M next to a M2, and IMO this line ruins the whole look of the front. Same goes for F80/82 and other F models. Thank god that they fixed it with the G models... the F models are really looking good, but for me, this could be a deal braker
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And this is why I skipped the Comp. The timing coincides with the S58. Given the higher tolerances I wonder if this will be the first M2 to get it.
It'll be the S58 with 4 OPFs.
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If BMW could only get rid of this hideous gap above BMW logo where the hood ends.. I do not know if there is a word for this, but I assume you know what I mean. Recently parked my 1M next to a M2, and IMO this line ruins the whole look of the front. Same goes for F80/82 and other F models. Thank god that they fixed it with the G models... the F models are really looking good, but for me, this could be a deal braker
I know I'm biased as hell, but the 1M looks so much cleaner

Guys, just get a 1M
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It’s a CS, not a CSL. I already said it 3 times in the other CS/CSL thread.

The rest of the info is all correct.

- mid 2020
- available after M4CS
- bunch of carbon M-Performance stuff
- bit more performance

Thank me later.
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I really really really hope they will offer San Marino blue as an option.. z
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If BMW could only get rid of this hideous gap above BMW logo where the hood ends.. I do not know if there is a word for this, but I assume you know what I mean. Recently parked my 1M next to a M2, and IMO this line ruins the whole look of the front. Same goes for F80/82 and other F models. Thank god that they fixed it with the G models... the F models are really looking good, but for me, this could be a deal braker
The e39/e46 era had a very clean hoodline that integrated the grill into the hood. This visually hid the seam excellently.

I am sure this is more expensive to manufacture since it is a much “deeper” part to stamp and in more recent models they went back to the traditional “flat” hood with seam clearly visible.

Darker colors can help hide the seams better than white cars
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Of course, mostly interested to know whether this test mule features the (since long) rumored 450hp output (S55 engine).

From outside, this seems to be a "regular" M2 Competition featuring several of the M2/M2C M Performance Parts announced last Spring (see here and here).

Black 763M wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires (no surprise either).

Several M Performance carbon fiber parts got white camo tape (instead of the usual swirls camo tape): CF splitter (BMW part # 51192449476), CF hood (BMW part # 41612449807) and double-bubble CF roof (BMW part # 41312460277), except for the CF diffusor (BMW part # 51192361666).

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The biggest indication that this is not just an M2 Competition model fitted with M Performance Parts are its M Carbon Ceramic Brakes, which are not available (either as option nor M Performance Part) on the M2 Competition. Its trunk spoiler is also unique - different than the M Performance version and not yet seen before.
Carbon Ceramic Brakes on an F87 are a novelty. The M2 MotoGP Safety Car (2016) featured prototype CCB's (see here). And the CF trunk spoiler has indeed a different design compared to the M2/M2C M Performance Parts CF trunk lid (BMW part # 41622460277 - see here): M3 CS / M4 CS design (spoiler sitting further away on top of the trunk lid).

Wondering whether, during further progress, BMW M:
  • will add the M Performance Parts CF fenders (BMW part # 41352449803 & 41352449804) and the M Performance Exhaust (likely different for EURO-spec because of tight EU emissions regulations);
  • will keep the CF trunk spoiler or replace it with a fully integrated one (remember the E46 M3 CSL 'ducktail' trunk lid design, which was made of sheet molding compound);
  • will keep the M Performance splitter or replace it with a fully integrated one (but not as big as the M4 GTS splitter), as featured in this render posted in August 2016:
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An M2 is testing a new aerodynamic aid similar to this.

Also referred to in this 2017 post:
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Here's my guess.

It has been confirmed in Summer 2016 that "an M2 model is testing a new aerodynamic aid similar to this".

So, if the M2 CS is supposed to get a bolted-on or integrated 'splitter' (front lip ŕ la BMW GT6 Vision Concept) for aerodynamics and design reasons...







Compare with the M2/M2C M Performance Parts splitter:

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Wondering whether, during further progress, BMW M:
  • will add the M Performance Parts CF fenders (BMW part # 41352449803 & 41352449804) and the M Performance Exhaust (likely different for EURO-spec because of tight EU emissions regulations);
  • will keep the CF trunk spoiler or replace it with a fully integrated one (remember the E46 M3 CSL 'ducktail' trunk lid design, which was made of sheet molding compound);
  • will keep the M Performance splitter or replace it with a fully integrated one (but not as big as the M4 GTS splitter), as featured in this render posted in August 2016:
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An M2 is testing a new aerodynamic aid similar to this.
[PICTURE]
Artemis, are you sure the “similar aerodynamic aid” SCOTT mentioned wasn’t just the M Stripe Decals?
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And this is why I skipped the Comp. The timing coincides with the S58. Given the higher tolerances I wonder if this will be the first M2 to get it.
Further progress. When the s58 hits the M2 next year everyone will claim they always knew it was coming!
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You can tell the lip, hood, and roof are all wrapped in white. I love the power dome and the look of that spoiler. My M2C will have the CF spoiler added, but I think I like the looks of this one a bit more.
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Further progress. When the s58 hits the M2 next year everyone will claim they always knew it was coming!
Magazine reviews in 2020: “How the M2 should have been all along...”
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If BMW could only get rid of this hideous gap above BMW logo where the hood ends.. I do not know if there is a word for this, but I assume you know what I mean. Recently parked my 1M next to a M2, and IMO this line ruins the whole look of the front. Same goes for F80/82 and other F models. Thank god that they fixed it with the G models... the F models are really looking good, but for me, this could be a deal braker
Black cars hide panel gaps....just sayin'
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That's my spoiler ! Nice
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Further progress. When the s58 hits the M2 next year everyone will claim they always knew it was coming!
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Magazine reviews in 2020: “How the M2 should have been all along...”
And I will start the following threads in M2 Competition sub-forum as an M2C owner:

"Why I will never buy another BMW"
"Anyone else salty about M2 CS(L)"
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