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View Poll Results: Would you take an M2 CS allocation at MSRP?
Yes - M2 CS will be a limited edition masterpiece 30 22.90%
No - I don't see the value / still love my OG M2 49 37.40%
No - I don't see the value / still love my M2 Comp 38 29.01%
No - I'll wait for the next gen M2, M3 or M4 14 10.69%
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      02-23-2020, 11:42 PM   #23
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Same engine. Does not weight much less either. No comfort access. Big no for me. Keeping my M2c.

BMW is crazy if they think I will pay $30k more for an identical car with a software update and some carbon fiber pieces that don’t do much.
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      02-23-2020, 11:55 PM   #24
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My M2C will be just on 2 years old when my M2cs shows up (pending confirmation... still).

I did say I'd never sell my M2C.

However.

It's the final form of my favourite car. I don't plan on ever selling the CS. Honest.

I will still probably cry uncontrollably when the M2C goes though.
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My M2C will be just on 2 years old when my M2cs shows up (pending confirmation... still).

I did say I'd never sell my M2C.

However.

It's the final form of my favourite car. I don't plan on ever selling the CS. Honest.

I will still probably cry uncontrollably when the M2C goes though.
You're getting a CS? Good for you; I'm jelly..

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      02-24-2020, 11:33 AM   #26
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I'm waiting on the G80 M3. I'll reserve my judgement until i see one in the flesh. Personally, i don't see the CS upgrade justify the $20K delta between what i paid for my M2C.
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I'll be getting one.

I do not have an F87. If I had an M2C I would agree that the delta in price isn't enough to justify, but I've been a lurker on here for awhile, waiting for this final iteration before even the N55 M2 came out.

Also, If the CS didn't have a manual option I would be going for a M2C and would be happy with that.
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      02-24-2020, 12:22 PM   #28
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So 75% of members on a BMW forum say NO. Common sense does prevail.
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So 75% of members on a BMW forum say NO. Common sense does prevail.
The common sense argument always rubs me the wrong way. But I guess "common" is relative, so if Im in an "uncommon" situation then I guess it wouldn't apply. I admit that I want what I want and passion drives my decision, but I'd also argue that there are circumstances that make that make sense.

My question to everyone that thinks all the M2CS folks are nutter butters....What exactly is common sense, and why is steering clear of the CS good common sense?
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I'm probably not the nest person to poll since I just purchased my OG.

However I did buy the OG because I liked it better than the M2C, and I dont see what the CS does to improve the M2C to the point where I'd change my mind.

That said, its a beauty. And I hope whoever ends up with one enjoys the hell out of it!
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The common sense argument always rubs me the wrong way. But I guess "common" is relative, so if Im in an "uncommon" situation then I guess it wouldn't apply. I admit that I want what I want and passion drives my decision, but I'd also argue that there are circumstances that make that make sense.

My question to everyone that thinks all the M2CS folks are nutter butters....What exactly is common sense, and why is steering clear of the CS good common sense?
So sports cars in general are not a good topic to apply "common sense" to like you said. And at the same time if I have $90k of expandable income, M2 CS is not what I spend it on. And I don't even have an M2C. Just a regular old N55. And all it cost me was 39K Euro.

So the performance gain is even higher against an OG M2, but the price delta is insane. For $90k I'm looking at GTRs, 911s and even Corvette ZR1.

To me anyway this is sense.
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This is a dumb poll as you already have over 80 votes and most of these I figure won't even have a allocation! You may as just said, "who doesn't want one or can't afford one".
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      02-24-2020, 03:57 PM   #33
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So sports cars in general are not a good topic to apply "common sense" to like you said. And at the same time if I have $90k of expandable income, M2 CS is not what I spend it on. And I don't even have an M2C. Just a regular old N55. And all it cost me was 39K Euro.

So the performance gain is even higher against an OG M2, but the price delta is insane. For $90k I'm looking at GTRs, 911s and even Corvette ZR1.

To me anyway this is sense.
You can't get a new GTR, ZR1, or 911 Carrera S at $90k. GTR is at least $113k before options, ZR1 is at least $120k before options. I built a 911 Carrera S with reasonable options at $130k.

The CS without CCBS is under $90k. It's hard to compare new cars to old cars.
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So 75% of members on a BMW forum say NO. Common sense does prevail.
Polls are notoriously difficult to word just right, to capture the respondent's true preferences. And then, even if you've worded it properly, you're only capturing "stated preference" (words) as opposed to "revealed preference" (actions). Age old saying, "Words are cheap" applies to all polling, unfortunately.

For example, in the poll, my response was "no." But only because I already have an M2C and can't justify taking the massive depreciation hit, plus the $5k in taxes I already paid, etc., etc.

But if I didn't already have an M2C, and you gave me the choice of an M2CS at MSRP, and an M2C at 10% off MSRP, I'd take the M2CS eight days a week.

So, if the intention of the poll question is to determine "Hey, dude, would you go through the headache of trying to sell your existing car, effectively pay the evil government sales tax twice, in order to own the M2CS?" then in my case, the poll captured my sentiments properly.

If the intention of the poll question is to determine "which car would you rather have, given prevailing market prices?" then it doesn't.
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I want one, it looks hot.. But the price is up there..

Still, a fully-equipped M4 is like 82k, so if you're willing to splurge in that price bracket, it's really just a matter of taste..
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I want one, it looks hot.. But the price is up there..

Still, a fully-equipped M4 is like 82k, so if you're willing to splurge in that price bracket, it's really just a matter of taste..
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Still up in the air. I’m expecting to have an allocation but haven’t heard definitely from the dealer yet how many they are getting. It gives me time to see what the pricing on the initial cars do. I like to see the car at $75k or less, so needs to be some substantial discount from the MSRP that has been quoted. In the meantime, I bought a 991.1 GT3. M2 CS would be in addition to the GT3, not replacing it.
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Well, apparently the status is "waiting for my build slot". I still don't know if this means I have one but it seems promising.

But yes I'll be sure to post something on the differences once I overcome the grieving period.

I don't really expect it to be that much better than the M2C and can agree with anyone that thinks the purchase is irrational. It really is. I'm just lucky with cash at the moment so it has no financial impact and I just have a feeling I'd kick myself about it in a few years time.

But it just looks so bloody good. Final form.
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Well, apparently the status is "waiting for my build slot". I still don't know if this means I have one but it seems promising.

But yes I'll be sure to post something on the differences once I overcome the grieving period.

I don't really expect it to be that much better than the M2C and can agree with anyone that thinks the purchase is irrational. It really is. I'm just lucky with cash at the moment so it has no financial impact and I just have a feeling I'd kick myself about it in a few years time.

But it just looks so bloody good. Final form.
I agree with this as I believe the CS will be the last good looking BMW in a while. I don't like where the G Series is headed starting with next M3/M4. The cars are longer, more weight, no DCT, and that unnecessary grille.
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I'd probably say yes if there was some discount or an obscenely high trade-in amount for my <1,000 mile M2C. But I know neither situation would happen so I didn't bias your results by voting...
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I keep M2C regardless of the fact that I can buy an M2CS with a discount of 25% off the price in Germany.

M2CS doesn't make sense as per my understanding as this is exactly the price territory of a a new Cayman GTS 4.0.
And the Cayman GTS 4.0 is a car of a higher level without any doubt.
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That's no suggestion or hypothetical, but the truth. Getting a 10% discount for an M2 CS over here is not impossible, without being required to have a special status (such as diplomat, working at BMW, fleet, etc.). Certainty of this piece of info: 100%.
Can confirm as this is what I got on my quotation: 10% discount. (dealer also said something in the lines of 20 allocations left (in belgium, not sure anymore))

I still don't know what to do, buy a:
- used M2C (~55K€),
- new M2C (~75K€),
- M2CS (90K€).

So for 15K more then a new M2C I can have a CS, is that worth it?

Currently drive a F21 M135i, is the M2 really a big upgrade? (Will test drive one soon)

I've also been looking at the new porsche GT4 but it's just too costly (at ~130K€)

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I keep M2C regardless of the fact that I can buy an M2CS with a discount of 25% off the price in Germany.

M2CS doesn't make sense as per my understanding as this is exactly the price territory of a a new Cayman GTS 4.0.
And the Cayman GTS 4.0 is a car of a higher level without any doubt.
Any thoughts on this from someone else? Would you prefer M2CS or cayman GTS 4.0?
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Can confirm as this is what I got on my quotation: 10% discount. (dealer also said something in the lines of 20 allocations left (in belgium, not sure anymore))

I still don't know what to do, buy a:
- used M2C (~55K€),
- new M2C (~75K€),
- M2CS (90K€).

So for 15K more then a new M2C I can have a CS, is that worth it?

Currently drive a F21 M135i, is the M2 really a big upgrade? (Will test drive one soon)

I've also been looking at the new porsche GT4 but it's just too costly (at ~130K€)

1) M2C is a giant step ahead comparing to M135. Fenomenal car
2) M2CS will be around $22-25K euro more than M2C with same specs like sports brakes etc.
3) I would buy a used one. Just spend some time finding a good specced in a good condition and save a lot of money in a result.


I did the configuration of M2CS specced same way as my M2C, which had a sticker price 78K euro. The M2CS came out to be 103K euro. 25K euro difference.

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I still don't know what to do, buy a:
- used M2C (~55K€),
- new M2C (~75K€),
- M2CS (90K€).
So for 15K more then a new M2C I can have a CS, is that worth it?
Since late Autumn several new M2C M-DCT are available at Belgian BMW M dealers with discounts up to ~20% (see here).

Take a look and maybe there's an M2C featuring the body color, options and price that interests you. Mind you, the list has become shorter over time as, obviously, the big discounts attracted buyers. AFAIK none with manual transmission.

I've seen (very) well-equipped new M2C M-DCT move for less than ~€65K, which is ~€35.5K less than the official Belgian list price for an M2 CS M-DCT without options (€100,625) and ~€4.5K less than the official Belgian list price for an M2C M-DCT without options (€69,475). All through the official BMW network, advertised on the official BMW website - no third parties involved or resale.

For sure an M2C ain't an M2 CS, but the price difference is food for thought.
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