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Just go the Wagner Evo II Comp. Future proof for your stage 2 tune and relatively light weight. Runs great on my car with stock turbo and no noticeable lag.
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Stage 2 and/or upgraded turbo , go with 6" including Wagner EVO II, VRSF 6" Race CSF or Evolution Racewerks.
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I've asked Evolve, given how narrow the CS FMIC [when compared to wider stock FMIC] is, could this allow room to run 2.5"/3" ducting from lower grill area to both front brakes ?
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Here is the chart from the video that Evolve Automotive put together.
https://flic.kr/p/SPybxf Summary - Little to no pressure drop compared to OEM - 21℃ drop in Intake air temp = ~70℉ drop in IAT's compared to the OEM - Mid range power gain ~20whp / 20 tq |
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Otherwise that's some great numbers! Wouldn't call it power gain though, more accurate to say no power lost due to ignition being pulled as a result of high iats. But otherwise great results you've convinced me and I'll probably get a CSF IC in the future.
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Empty claims? Are you trying to troll? i have a CSF cooler it cools like a beast with oem fitment and zero lag. Both companies have substantial testing available if you attempt to look you will find it . Peter from pure turbos eu had a great review on the CSF cooler vs the wagner
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Imran@Evolve Hi Imram - the quote above implies you were showing wHP on your dyno in the YT clip I posted above in this thread. Were both 403 std FMIC v 413 CSF FMIC stats at the wheels or at the crank figures ? Thanks, BP.
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Just a simple typo from CSF as they are used to WHP I guess. |
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I'm glad you felt the need to respond. I should have been more clear - when I said empty claims I was referring to the 'wager' that VRSF and CSF both signed up to many months ago, and to date, there has been nothing but 'empty' posturing.
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Read the whole thread now, very interesting.
Many years ago I bought a 7 inch IC from one of the companies participating in this thread. I did not know as much then as I do now and thought that bigger is generally better. I have no doubts that the IC did perform well but since I was not heavily modded (intake, charge pipe, 7" IC and custom tune, appr. 380-390bhp) the IC introduced noticable lag, a good second from foot down to turbos kicking in. Now, when I have an M2 with, as far as I can tell, minimal lag I really don't want to introduce ANY lag but I'm really interested in getting the temps down. To be honest, I will only drive on the street and rarely pushes the car to the max. If IŽd ever track I really don't care about more power because I don't have the skills to push the car I'd reckon.. Maayybe in the future I'd possibly to a stage 1 tune but that's it. But if I where to upgrade the FMIC and want NO lag, could you guys with experience back up that there is no more lag with, for example, a VRSF/CSF/Wagner 5" than with the stock FMIC? I mean, I'd almost rather skip upgrading at all than risking the introduction of noticable lag. And with noticable I mean measurable in tenths of seconds on a 0-100 km/h time. |
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VRSF, Active Autowerke, Wagner EVO I CSF is a 6" not the best option for a stock car
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