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      09-20-2017, 04:59 AM   #89
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I don't understand how this works? Can someone provide more details.

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It's basically a little piece of rubber that's thicker than the stock one. The rubber is what the clutch pedal hits when it's pressed all the way down. Obviously the thicker the rubber the less the pedal has to travel. This image will give you a better idea. Look at the little black piece. The ones talked about here are different but this will give you the gist of it.
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      09-20-2017, 07:00 AM   #90
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I don't understand how this works? Can someone provide more details.

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Super simple.

The clutch pedal travels well past the point of clutch disengagement, to the floor.
This makes for sloppy shifting.
The BMS clutch stop removes that extra travel of the pedal.
So, when you kick the clutch, it hits the clutch stop, and you can shift.

**EDIT** sorry, I just saw the diagram above

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      09-20-2017, 07:16 AM   #91
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Thanks Guys

Really appreciate the information. So approximately how far does the pedal travel beyond the clutch engagement/disengagement point. Is there some free movement left after installing the clutch stop?

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It's basically a little piece of rubber that's thicker than the stock one. The rubber is what the clutch pedal hits when it's pressed all the way down. Obviously the thicker the rubber the less the pedal has to travel. This image will give you a better idea. Look at the little black piece. The ones talked about here are different but this will give you the gist of it.
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Super simple.

The clutch pedal travels well past the point of clutch disengagement, to the floor.
This makes for sloppy shifting.
The BMS clutch stop removes that extra travel of the pedal.
So, when you kick the clutch, it hits the clutch stop, and you can shift.

**EDIT** sorry, I just saw the diagram above
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      09-20-2017, 10:37 PM   #92
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Thanks Guys

Really appreciate the information. So approximately how far does the pedal travel beyond the clutch engagement/disengagement point. Is there some free movement left after installing the clutch stop?

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Yes, I'd say about 3/4" give or take...your first shift will be a bit surprising at how much dead space it removes
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      09-24-2017, 01:52 AM   #93
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Yes, I'd say about 3/4" give or take...your first shift will be a bit surprising at how much dead space it removes

Great. Thanks
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      09-25-2017, 12:38 AM   #94
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I guess BMS tests that the clutch fully disengages when you have the stop with all shims installed? Yeah, you would feel it if it were still fully engaged, but maybe not if it was just barely making contact?
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A little PSA for everyone. Ive been running the clutch stop since day one of owning my car and I would find that sometimes 2nd and 3rd gear would grind when driving super hard. When cruising around town I would also sometimes feel the synchro's struggling to mate the gears(this particular feeling would happen from 2nd to 3rd). I have since backed off the rubber washers, from 3 to 2 and again from 2 to 1 and it seems to have fixed it. Kindof a bummer because it's a noticeable difference but then again, the clutch was designed to perform within a certain tolerance...
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Installed with all provided washers... Amazing difference!! Thanks BMS
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      10-27-2017, 12:58 AM   #97
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A little PSA for everyone. Ive been running the clutch stop since day one of owning my car and I would find that sometimes 2nd and 3rd gear would grind when driving super hard. When cruising around town I would also sometimes feel the synchro's struggling to mate the gears(this particular feeling would happen from 2nd to 3rd). I have since backed off the rubber washers, from 3 to 2 and again from 2 to 1 and it seems to have fixed it. Kindof a bummer because it's a noticeable difference but then again, the clutch was designed to perform within a certain tolerance...
I have installed the clutch stop for about 2 weeks. I was very concerned about weather the clutch will fully disengage or not. So i took my bimmerlink app and read out the clutch torque sensor. I tested multiple times if any torque is transfered to the clutch when fully disengaged. And the answer is no: clutch is fully disengaged (with 3 of 4 washers) and from this pov there is no reason to worry about additional wear.
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I have installed the clutch stop for about 2 weeks. I was very concerned about weather the clutch will fully disengage or not. So i took my bimmerlink app and read out the clutch torque sensor. I tested multiple times if any torque is transfered to the clutch when fully disengaged. And the answer is no: clutch is fully disengaged (with 3 of 4 washers) and from this pov there is no reason to worry about additional wear.
I don't know what to say. It grinded gears before, now it doesn't. Maybe my car is just weird?
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I have this mod on my 135 with 3 washers installed. Been running it for 2 years and one will definitely go in my M2 when I get it. Best $10 you can spend on your car.
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Just installed the BMS clutch stop with all 3 washers on my 2018 LCI. No problems with any gear engagement, and it makes for a much better driving experience. Great product, excellent value and super easy to install
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I have installed the clutch stop for about 2 weeks. I was very concerned about weather the clutch will fully disengage or not. So i took my bimmerlink app and read out the clutch torque sensor. I tested multiple times if any torque is transfered to the clutch when fully disengaged. And the answer is no: clutch is fully disengaged (with 3 of 4 washers) and from this pov there is no reason to worry about additional wear.
Interesting... I guess BMW has this for warranty purposes and to detect slip
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Took delivery of my car yesterday and drove 400 miles back home. Today installed the clutch stop before going for a drive and feels much better without all that excess clutch travel
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If it fixed the first-second balky shift, now That's something I could use!
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Took delivery of my car yesterday and drove 400 miles back home. Today installed the clutch stop before going for a drive and feels much better without all that excess clutch travel!
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ordered this cause of all the positive comments the night I got my m2, just threw it in it literally took 30 seconds. Thought I pulled the wrong piece out because of how short the factory clutch stop is. feels INCREDIBLE
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I installed mine with 2 of the 3 washers and regret not putting in the third. Anyone remove the stop and reinstalled successfully? It looks like a one time use piece so I might just order another one.

And yes the stock engagement point is comically high that this mod is a must!
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I installed mine with 2 of the 3 washers and regret not putting in the third. Anyone remove the stop and reinstalled successfully? It looks like a one time use piece so I might just order another one.

And yes the stock engagement point is comically high that this mod is a must!
I'm not going to use mine. I'll sell it to you for $9 shipped PM me save $1 and help a brutha out.
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Wow! I installed this with all three washers on day 2 and it really makes a difference. I'm still trying to get used to the light clutch pedal which should come with time.
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Wow! I installed this with all three washers on day 2 and it really makes a difference. I'm still trying to get used to the light clutch pedal which should come with time.
Get an Ultimate Clutch Pedal. That will stiffen the pedal, while still feeling progressive...
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I installed mine with 2 of the 3 washers and regret not putting in the third. Anyone remove the stop and reinstalled successfully? It looks like a one time use piece so I might just order another one.

And yes the stock engagement point is comically high that this mod is a must!
I've installed/removed mine twice without issue (removing I moved it side to side while pulling it out). Like you I started with 2 washers, then went to 3 which I thought was better. With 3 the clutch started to engage within an inch or 2 from it's fully depressed position & later I noticed the revs increased ever so slightly (roughly 100rpm) with the clutch pedal depressed. Just to check I pulled out the clutch stop and found the same rev increase with the pedal to the floor (no stop at all), re-installed with 3 washers, quick smooth shifts are a lot easier.

I wish they did an Ultimate Clutch Pedal for RHD, would be a lot happier if I could get the rest position of the clutch pedal to sit a little lower (equal with the brake pedal)
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