[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by gulshan

I guess a lot of potential M2 folks will be test driving a loaded new focus rs that can be had for $40k.

LOL, that would require logic, which has long abandoned the M2 forums.

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

LOL, that would require logic, which has long abandoned the M2 forums.

You cant get a RS lol or a Mustang GT350R Im cross shopping both though more the mustang.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

You cant get a RS lol or a Mustang GT350R Im cross shopping both though more the mustang.

Ffuuuuuu good luck with the Shelby. that was in the running along with the F80 for a while....until I saw what the Shelby's were going for....a year old.

[RBNetEngr]

Here in San Antonio, a Ford dealer is selling a brand new GT350 for ONLY $5K over MSRP because it has hail damage!

-rb

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by RBNetEngr

Here in San Antonio, a Ford dealer is selling a brand new GT350 for ONLY $5K over MSRP because it has hail damage!

-rb

LOL too funny and why in the hell wasn't this car in the showroom to begin with??? Dumb dealer...

[mc3456]

Originally Posted by BMW335iOn18s

It's not about real world residual value, it's about maximizing profit on a low volume car.

Exactly! I'm guessing BMW underestimated demand for the M2 and as such will charge more to lease the limited supply that will be available for the next year or so. The initial M2 buzz post-introduction/pre-magazine tests, was decidely negative by M3/M4 owners who were bitching about retaining the N55 engine, no M seats and mirrors. It was utterly stupid speculation, but would not be surprised if it made BMW NA a little nervous about potential receptivity. Since then, people have learned what an amazing little car it is, and dealer waiting lists have grown substantially long, hence reducing the residual, raising MF, and essentially charging more for the vehicle on lease. Right now, a purchase is a much better deal...if you can get one. Good luck on that!

[adc]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

I'm in NY lowest I could find was like 1000 a month. Unless someone shows you the paper work I wouldn't believe them.
You'd be shocked people will say they put nothing down but then you find out they had a trade in. Id do 850 in a second

My $67k MSRP M3 is $650 per month. ED, max MSD's, 64 or 65% residual, 0 down, and some type of loyalty $1k discount.

I'm glad I didn't wait for the M2. But 2 years from now when my lease ends, I'll look at it again - who knows it might be worth it.

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by adc

My $67k MSRP M3 is $650 per month. ED, max MSD's, 64 or 65% residual, 0 down, and some type of loyalty $1k discount.

I'm glad I didn't wait for the M2. But 2 years from now when my lease ends, I'll look at it again - who knows it might be worth it.

I didnt know you could get a 67k m3...

[adc]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

I didnt know you could get a 67k m3...

Metallic paint, leather, EDC and 19" wheels. Whatever that comes out to...

Really don't need anything else, base spec is generous. (Well maybe a backup camera but oh well).

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by adc

Metallic paint, leather, EDC and 19" wheels. Whatever that comes out to...

Really don't need anything else, base spec is generous. (Well maybe a backup camera but oh well).

whats ED? European delivery? A stripper and a ED would make sense thats a good residual also.

[gabeyts]

Originally Posted by adc

My $67k MSRP M3 is $650 per month. ED, max MSD's, 64 or 65% residual, 0 down, and some type of loyalty $1k discount.

I'm glad I didn't wait for the M2. But 2 years from now when my lease ends, I'll look at it again - who knows it might be worth it.

Would you mind PMing me the dealer you went to?

[adc]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

whats ED? European delivery? A stripper and a ED would make sense thats a good residual also.

Yes, Euro Delivery. Drove 4000 miles in Europe, to southern Spain, France etc.

[adc]

Originally Posted by gabeyts

Would you mind PMing me the dealer you went to?

Done.

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by adc

My $67k MSRP M3 is $650 per month. ED, max MSD's, 64 or 65% residual, 0 down, and some type of loyalty $1k discount.

I'm glad I didn't wait for the M2. But 2 years from now when my lease ends, I'll look at it again - who knows it might be worth it.

Im not a lease expert but that math doesn't work.

[adc]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

Im not a lease expert but that math doesn't work.

I'm inclined to agree with the first part of your sentence.

My sales price was $61k - because of ED, discount etc. What exactly doesn't work?

[Aloha Joe]

Originally Posted by adc

I'm inclined to agree with the first part of your sentence.

My sales price was $61k - because of ED, discount etc. What exactly doesn't work?

You got a great deal!

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by adc

I'm inclined to agree with the first part of your sentence.

My sales price was $61k - because of ED, discount etc. What exactly doesn't work?

Ahh ok that makes your OP mentioned 67K(That math doesn't work). Great deal looks like you got a great price and good interest rate and a great residual. I wanna say the residuals are worse now by quite a bit.

[adc]

Originally Posted by firestarter2

Ahh ok that makes your OP mentioned 67K(That math doesn't work). Great deal looks like you got a great price and good interest rate and a great residual. I wanna say the residuals are worse now by quite a bit.

Yes granted, I'm dropping in to read the info every now and then. Come replacement time in 2018, I'd be just as happy with another M3, an M2, or a used 991. Not bad choices, any one of them.

[firestarter2]

Originally Posted by adc

Yes granted, I'm dropping in to read the info every now and then. Come replacement time in 2018, I'd be just as happy with another M3, an M2, or a used 991. Not bad choices, any one of them.

Yeah im cross shopping a stang gt350r, a used Porsche turbo(997), and a used S8 I am all over the place . I kinda like small and fast or large and fast lol. Insurance is a @$@$@ though.

[BimmerTim]

I am working with a dealer who said they can change the build they have on order for my build. In order to make this happen I need to drop a $5k deposit on them before the end of the month.

Wanted to see what others have had to put down.

[cwg]

Horrible lease rates. You could lease an m4 with a MSRP in the high 70k for $900 a month Will have to see if BMW drops the lease rates on the 2017 M4.

[cwg]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

Huh? The lease money factor has nothing to do with a traditional finance purchase.

Your greatest leverage with the dealer is being willing to walk away (either to not purchase, or to buy from another dealer). M2 supply is going to be very tight for the first few months. If you're interested in a deal, your choices are to wait, or to shop very, very hard and be willing to travel to pick up the car.

There is no leverage on this car now.