BMW M2 Coupé IN DEPTH - Ben Collin's Goodwood test

shivaswrath · 04-07-2016, 05:43 PM

The M2 needs a competition package, it doesn't sound hard core enough.

amw896 · 04-07-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Yep, same here. I don't even know why they try to compare these 2 cars, i will never own a crappy Ford...

Fan Boi much? Ford has surpassed BMW from an enthusiast perspective imo. The Focus RS and GT 350 offer incredible performance for your money.

lol true that. Even long time M car lover Chris Harris thinks the new mustang GT is "loosely" on par with the m4. I think it's safe to say the GT350 or the new Stingray crushes anything out of Germany, performance wise. I wonder if my little 235i will keep pace with next gen base focus looool

M3 Number 86 · 04-07-2016, 06:34 PM

Did he say like an e9x?

Law · 04-07-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Did he say like an e9x?

You mean how it is "analog" with "perfect balance and poise"?

Blasphemy! No way a torque-less 8400RPM engine with RWD can achieve such feels!

bmwmnation · 04-07-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Igs

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Hell yeah i do!! Lol i support companies i actually like and Ford is not one of them no matter what they build.

A true enthusiast will see the value other manufacturers bring, not just the one he/she owns. Competition is always great for the consumer. Ford has come a long way from 10 years ago. While as much as I love BMW, I cant say the same for BMW.

I agree

Verbiage · 04-07-2016, 07:31 PM

The tame racing driver!

tc328 · 04-07-2016, 08:01 PM

Wtf did I just watch???

dmboone25 · 04-07-2016, 08:21 PM

I wish he had given it a longer and deeper review - like "in depth".

BMW Gator · 04-07-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

True enthusiast?? Well excuse me lol guess i'm not qualified to own that title since i don't care about Ford making a rally racing National Lampoon wagon.

I just can't see myself driving a Fast and Furious boy racer car. I moved on from that phase of life centuries ago

That's sad. You're missing a lot of great cars and a lot of fun because either your ego gets in the way or you're worried about other peoples perceptions of you.

///M-Furby · 04-07-2016, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

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Originally Posted by ur31337

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Originally Posted by weyland

I see plenty of the old Focus RS' by me, I only see 1M's at car meets. Will no doubt be similar with the M2.

I'm not sure how they are handling it across the pond where you are, but here in the US, the M2 isn't limited production run like the 1M was. The first year will be low production, but they're ramping up as we head towards the LCI.

You probably shouldn't speak until there is volume present.

If anything , you should learn from the 1M rollout that when shortages and " limited " availability happened in Europe for the 1M, that same thing later happened to the US market which got delivers after other world markets.

Lots of US enthusiasts ASSUMED the US would get more 1M than Europe because of the way that M models are most popular in the US.. And they were wrong.

So..

Now that there are shortages and limited availability in Europe for the M2 , if you want to be so bold and declare that M2 will be plentiful in the US you just go right ahead.

Just understand your comments fly in the face of precedent and you might end up with egg on your face.

they got rid of 1 because they were planning for the number swap, and the 2 series = 2 door. if not for the 2 series, the 1 would stil, be here. kind of like the 330 e9x was only made for 1 year.

atxsk8r · 04-07-2016, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW Gator

That's sad. You're missing a lot of great cars and a lot of fun because either your ego gets in the way or you're worried about other peoples perceptions of you.

LOL i'm not anti all other car companies, just Ford and a few others. And don't lie saying there isn't a brand you hate. What if KIA came out with a 500hp sports coupe, would you get it? NO!

And i'm getting an M2 so sounds like i'll be owning a great car to me and having lots of fun

ORIGIN M. · 04-08-2016, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Yep, same here. I don't even know why they try to compare these 2 cars, i will never own a crappy Ford...

Fan Boi much? Ford has surpassed BMW from an enthusiast perspective imo. The Focus RS and GT 350 offer incredible performance for your money.

Sure sure sure.

Bless their little heart.

Ford has crappy resale valve.

In the end it's nothing short of a Fucked Over Raw Deal /

E92Brembo · 04-08-2016, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Igs

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Hell yeah i do!! Lol i support companies i actually like and Ford is not one of them no matter what they build.

A true enthusiast will see the value other manufacturers bring, not just the one he/she owns. Competition is always great for the consumer. Ford has come a long way from 10 years ago. While as much as I love BMW, I cant say the same for BMW.

This

Robin_NL · 04-08-2016, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by E92Brembo

This

Exactly.

My grandpa had a Ford V8(pre WWII in the 30s)

From all the normal brands I love Ford the most(I also worked at a dealership for a while almost 25 years ago...)

Which (even exotic) normal carbrand can say it has(colaborrated with) icons like:

Shelby Cobra 289/427
GT40
Escort Mk1/Mk2 Rally
RS200GrB
Sierra RS500
Escort Cosworth
Focus WRC/RS/new RS
Ford GT
New ALMS GT

Cheers
Robin

Advevo · 04-08-2016, 06:01 AM

I have them both on Order. Focus RS and M2. Can t make a decision

The M2 is far more luxury fun car. In every day use the m2 is far better. I drove the M2 Tuesday on Barcelona racetrack. The DCT version. But i sure buy the 6 speed manual. DCT shifts are so smooth it feels like i drive an automatic gearbox everytime i pull the shift lever.

But i also like some 4wd drifting and that s were focus RS comes in nicely but it wil be no daily car for me.

Nine Lives · 04-08-2016, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Exactly.

My grandpa had a Ford V8(pre WWII in the 30s)

From all the normal brands I love Ford the most(I also worked at a dealership for a while almost 25 years ago...)

Which (even exotic) normal carbrand can say it has(colaborrated with) icons like:

Shelby Cobra 289/427
GT40
Escort Mk1/Mk2 Rally
RS200GrB
Sierra RS500
Escort Cosworth
Focus WRC/RS/new RS
Ford GT
New ALMS GT

Cheers
Robin

Escort mk1 Rally

walmark · 04-08-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

He's no Clarkson...

Haha, I was just going to say that
There is a reason why they didn't let him speak on the show

walmark · 04-08-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

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Originally Posted by BMW Gator

That's sad. You're missing a lot of great cars and a lot of fun because either your ego gets in the way or you're worried about other peoples perceptions of you.

LOL i'm not anti all other car companies, just Ford and a few others. And don't lie saying there isn't a brand you hate. What if KIA came out with a 500hp sports coupe, would you get it? NO!

And i'm getting an M2 so sounds like i'll be owning a great car to me and having lots of fun

What if Nissan came up with an awesome supercar killer? Would you buys that?
Or what if Toyota/Lexus actually built a supercar? Would you buy that?

Of course not! They're not BMW so they must me CR*P!

atxsk8r · 04-08-2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by walmark

What if Nissan came up with an awesome supercar killer? Would you buys that?
Or what if Toyota/Lexus actually built a supercar? Would you buy that?

Of course not! They're not BMW so they must me CR*P!

Did you even read what i posted?? I said i'm not anti all other companies, just some and yes i've owned other car companies in the past (Lexus, Infiniti, Honda).

And Nissan has the GTR so yes i would own that car

georgere · 04-08-2016, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

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Originally Posted by Igs

A true enthusiast will see the value other manufacturers bring, not just the one he/she owns. Competition is always great for the consumer. Ford has come a long way from 10 years ago. While as much as I love BMW, I cant say the same for BMW.

True enthusiast?? Well excuse me lol guess i'm not qualified to own that title since i don't care about Ford making a rally racing National Lampoon wagon.

I just can't see myself driving a Fast and Furious boy racer car. I moved on from that phase of life centuries ago

M2 is not more mature looking, isn't it?

M///Fanatic · 04-08-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Igs

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Originally Posted by atxsk8r

Hell yeah i do!! Lol i support companies i actually like and Ford is not one of them no matter what they build.

A true enthusiast will see the value other manufacturers bring, not just the one he/she owns. Competition is always great for the consumer. Ford has come a long way from 10 years ago. While as much as I love BMW, I cant say the same for BMW.

Where did BMW need to come? Ford and other American manufacturers are finally getting up to the level set by many European auto manufacturers.

BMW Gator · 04-08-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by M///Fanatic

Where did BMW need to come? Ford and other American manufacturers are finally getting up to the level set by many European auto manufacturers.

umm - I think they did that back in 1966

In 1966 the Mk.II took Europe by surprise and beat Ferrari to finish 1-2-3 in the standings. Ford GT40's went on to win the race (LeMans) for four consecutive years (1966-1969).

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