[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

You just keep on being rude without even addressing the real question. No one has even questioned that. They just wanted a different color. No need to talk down on people or prove yourself better than everyone else.

Lighten up a bit.

please... tell me the " real question" ... and I'll be SURE to address it..

Again... just because people WANT something... doesn't mean they have an understanding of what it takes to make it happen.

I want more variety in colors too... but I have an UNDERSTANDING of how that factory works and am saying it's not as easy as it seems.


the bottom line is... BMW did pick a new color for that factory ... and a lot of people are whining about what they want instead.

We can't always get what we want..

[auggiem3]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

please... tell me the " real question" ... and I'll be SURE to address it..

Again... just because people WANT something... doesn't mean they have an understanding of what it takes to make it happen.

I want more variety in colors too... but I have an UNDERSTANDING of how that factory works and am saying it's not as easy as it seems.


the bottom line is... BMW did pick a new color for that factory ... and a lot of people are whining about what they want instead.

We can't always get what we want..

....but if you try sometime you find you get what you need!

Sorry - couldn't resist a little Rolling Stones levity in the conversation.

[swagon]

Y'all need a break from the forums. This is hilarious.

[W///]

Originally Posted by swagon

Y'all need a break from the forums. This is hilarious.

+1

Let's be clear on one thing. You guys want more colors? Tough. Not going to happen even if you want to cry about it.

You guys want this thing to be unveiled early because you are bored? Tough.

You guys want this car to have an S engine, CF roof, rear air vents but still be $45k. Tough.

We can bitch and moan for 8 pages but where are we now?

[Adem1534]

I'll donate my left nut for a 7 second teaser

[Ritz42]

Originally Posted by W///

+1


You guys want this car to have an S engine, CF roof, rear air vents but still be $45k. Tough.

We can bitch and moan for 8 pages but where are we now?

My M235i has rear interior vents. I'm sure the M2 will have them too

[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

I'll donate my left nut for a 7 second teaser

Hahaha damn, you really do need time off the forums

Originally Posted by Ritz42

My M235i has rear interior vents. I'm sure the M2 will have them too

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but I was talking about the ones on the bodyside like the GT6 Concept...

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by swagon

Y'all need a break from the forums. This is hilarious.

Lol. Yes I was singing it too

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by W///

+1

Let's be clear on one thing. You guys want more colors? Tough. Not going to happen even if you want to cry about it.

You guys want this thing to be unveiled early because you are bored? Tough.

You guys want this car to have an S engine, CF roof, rear air vents but still be $45k. Tough.

We can bitch and moan for 8 pages but where are we now?

Watch out... People will say you are just on here ranting ...


God forbid you actually try and explain why some things aren't going to occur or are difficult..

you know.. like how many shifts are operating.. plant capacity... mundane things like the fact that different colors of exterior paint require a different base coat..... the fact that the paint booth sprays dried paint that has a charge on it... and that all the dried substrate that doesn't hit the vehicle is actually collected again.. etc.. Which means that the ENTIRE booth has to be cleared before switching colors.. you know... actual technical stuff.. lol..

[Ritz42]

Originally Posted by W///

Hahaha damn, you really do need time off the forums



Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but I was talking about the ones on the bodyside like the GT6 Concept...

It was sarcastic. One day they will invent a better way to convey internet sarcasm.

For the record, I agree with all your positions, but I have reserved the right to still hope for a CF roof.

[Artemis]

Don't get worked up, forum fellows.
The real reason why the M2 gets LBB: a bean counter at BMW massively mixed up, by mistake, figures when ordering a batch of LBB paint for the whole X5M production. And so the X5M, X6M and the M2 get it.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Don't get worked up, forum fellows.
The real reason why the M2 gets LBB: a bean counter at BMW massively mixed up, by mistake, figures when ordering a batch of LBB paint for the whole X5M production. And so the X5M, X6M and the M2 get it.

Well said, mon brigadier-général!

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by 135

....

Colours by cars manufactured at Leipzig:

X1
Black
Alpine White
Cashmere Silver
Le Mans Blue
Mineral White
Marrakesh Brown
Glacier Silver
Midnight Blue
Mineral Grey
Valencia Orange
Deep Sea Blue
Black Sapphire

1-series 5-door
Alpine White
Glacier Silver
Mineral Grey
Estoril Blue
Valencia Orange
Black Sapphire

2-series
Alpine White
Black
Glacier Silver
Midnight Blue
Mineral Grey
Mineral White
Estoril Blue
Black Sapphire
Deep Sea Blue
Melbourne Red
Moonlight Silver
Sparkling Brown
Valencia Orange

2-series Active Tourer
Black
Alpine White
Mediterranean Blue
Sparkling Brown
Glacier Silver
Atlantic Grey
Platinum Silver
Black Sapphire
Flamenco Red

i3
Andesite Silver
Arravani Grey
Iconic Silver
Laurel Grey
Solar Orange
Capparis White

i8
Sophisto Grey
Iconic Silver
Protonic Blue
Crystal White


All colours used at Leipzig:

Alpine White
Mineral White
Black
Black Sapphire
Atlantic Grey
Mineral Grey
Cashmere Silver
Glacier Silver
Moonlight Silver
Platinum Silver
Deep Sea Blue
Estoril Blue
Le Mans Blue
Mediterranean Blue
Midnight Blue
Valencia Orange
Melbourne Red
Flamenco Red
Marrakesh Brown
Sparkling Brown

BMW-i cars
Capparis White
Crystal White
Arravani Grey
Laurel Grey
Sophisto Grey
Andesite Silver
Iconic Silver
Protonic Blue
Solar Orange

Total number of each colour:
4 white
2 black
7 silver
5 grey
6 blue
2 orange
2 red
2 brown

Total number of colours: 30 !!! and more than half are monochrome (white, black, grey and, yes, silver).

Just over five years ago, Dackelone went on a Leipzig factory tour and counted 39 colours on the wall.

^^Thanks for that awesome post! Yes, Leipzig can make any color they choose too. But its all based on what is selling at the moment. Leipzig can not do Individual color cars. Just as Spartanburg, SC and Rosslyn, South Africa - both can not do Individual colors. Every other plant BMW has can do Individual colors.



Btw... here is a link to my Leipzig plant writeup. I've visited the factory three times. But its been a few years since my last visit. I ought to look into another visit soon. Maybe once we get closer to the M2 SOP(start of production).

BMW Leipzig factory tour… (Photos inside!)
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393421

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

... Indeed... many of the changeovers are for some of the more unique vehicles that are produced at Leipzig ...
They do have some one/off and special runs that are produced there .... and oddly.. when this is done it is for models that aren't actually produced there..
(ie... NOT 1 series models.. when I was there... IIRC there were some protection models etc.)


The changeovers that they were doing along with running at max capacity were already causing the PAINT BOOTH to run three shifts....

Believe it or not guys... the paint process IS the bottle neck on vehicle production.. it's about the only place on the line where the car isn't moving...

Yes, the paint process is the longest part of the car production process. But that is also why at Leipzig and at Regensburg - BMW AG has special holding room, where finished painted chassis are held in. I saw this room on my tour of Regensburg(1er/2er/3er & Z4). BMW can hold about 800 cars in this "storage room". A robot picks up finished(painted cars) to start final assembly.

At Leipzig we could not tour the paint shop... we could only see the paint process via thru thick glass side rooms(to watch the robots at work with human supervision). We also could see final inspection of painted cars - before they move onto the next step in the build process.

It's also interesting to note, that BMW puts no pressure (or time limits)on the guys who have the last word - on when a car's paint is ready for final assembly. The people who polish and fix paint defects can spend as much time on a single car - as needed.


Dackel

[Adem1534]

New spot in Vegas

[W///]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

New spot in Vegas

Add Swift springs to my mod list for my imaginary M2. It'll need it

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by W///

Add Swift springs to my mod list for my imaginary M2. It'll need it

The ride height and wheel gap look good in my opinion. I'm not a big fan of cars sitting low enough that the tires are tucking into the fenders.

[W///]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

The ride height and wheel gap look good in my opinion. I'm not a big fan of cars sitting low enough that the tires are tucking into the fenders.

Nope, definitely don't want that either. I'd want somewhere in between.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

I'll donate my left nut for a 7 second teaser

Yeah where is Dr. ///M when you need him ?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The question you want answered is does Long Beach Blue work on a car like the M2?

Yes........

The question you want answered is does [WHATEVER COLOR - EVEN WITH HIDEOUS STRIPES OR POLKA DOTS] work on a car like the Porsche Cayman GT4 ?

Yes........

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

New spot in Vegas

Might be the M2 with the moon roof of the Nevada group.

[PackPride85]

I'm heading out to Vegas tomorrow for the holiday. Will be keeping my eyes open.

[Bosozoku]

Originally Posted by Mp3ccable

Of course it does. It needs a CFRP roof and power dome on the hood before it can properly be differentiated from the M235i.

/sarcasm, as well

If the M2 has a carbon fiber roof, then that's it. M235i for me.

Because I absolutely require a sunroof or moonroof. Must. Have.
But losing the CF roof panel would just be wrong.
So I could never drive an M2 and be happy.

/sarcasm (except for the sunroof / moonroof requirement part)