[J3STER]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

I was just about to post your graph and saw this.

On smoothing 5 it should be 350+whp, which is legit for a DP only setup.

You can use a tune to take more advantages of your catless downpipe.

Thanks Sean! And yeah for sure the tune will bring out the true potential!

Just letting the river get a little water back since this month has been tons of spending.

[Saanen]

How much of a bump in decibels?...are you running it with or without the resonator.
I am thinking of adding a fabspeed high flow cat to my stock exhaust system with the resonator intact; running the Dinan P2 setup with everything except the exhaust. So I am curious how much louder it will be as I live in a quiet neighborhood and hoping to keep it on the quieter side.

Thanks

[J3STER]

Originally Posted by Saanen

How much of a bump in decibels?...are you running it with or without the resonator.
I am thinking of adding a fabspeed high flow cat to my stock exhaust system with the resonator intact; running the Dinan P2 setup with everything except the exhaust. So I am curious how much louder it will be as I live in a quiet neighborhood and hoping to keep it on the quieter side.

Thanks

With a sport cat it should not be too loud. On my catless one is a little loud on startup but once it gets out of the warming up cycle it is very tame and it doesn't bother anybody.

[Ninjaneer34]

Couple of questions:
1. Does the Fabspeed 200Cell produce any gains?

2. What are the recommended top 3 items for obtaining the most power? (charge pipe, intake, downpipe (200Cell - Cant do catless), exhaust, intercooler, tune)

3. What manufactures do you recommend? (Fabspeed, dinan, protuning freaks, evolution racewerks, active autowerks, VRSF)

[J3STER]

Originally Posted by Ninjaneer34

Couple of questions:
1. Does the Fabspeed 200Cell produce any gains?

2. What are the recommended top 3 items for obtaining the most power? (charge pipe, intake, downpipe (200Cell - Cant do catless), exhaust, intercooler, tune)

3. What manufactures do you recommend? (Fabspeed, dinan, protuning freaks, evolution racewerks, active autowerks, VRSF)

From my experience with a bunch of cars, the thing's that would make the most power and I think are absolutely needed.

Top 3 FMIC, Downpipe, Tune. That should be enough to max out the stock turbo on stock fueling.

Any downpipe in the market will produce gains since it will be less restrictive.

My route that I am going to go is protuning freaks bootmod3, ER race intercooler and I already have the Active autowerke catless downpipe. I don't get settled on any specific manufacturer. As long as the product meets my needs and I think the design is something I like I go with that.

[CSL_E36]

Ok guys/gals i got some results. Unfortunately i dont have a delta because i started to mod the car with 75 miles lol.

Mod list:
ER catless DP
ER IC +TIC+chargepipe
Dinan Intake
Dinan exhaust and resonator delete
Rktunes flash

This was on 91 (if that) using a dinky fan. I believe a larger fan and a splash of 100 oct would help pick up the tq a bit, but I am not looking for glory numbers, wanted to get an idea of how much power is making it to the ground, and now i do. 400wtq by 2500rpm

[J3STER]

Originally Posted by CSL_E36

Ok guys/gals i got some results. Unfortunately i dont have a delta because i started to mod the car with 75 miles lol.

Mod list:
ER catless DP
ER IC +TIC+chargepipe
Dinan Intake
Dinan exhaust and resonator delete
Rktunes flash

This was on 91 (if that) using a dinky fan. I believe a larger fan and a splash of 100 oct would help pick up the tq a bit, but I am not looking for glory numbers, wanted to get an idea of how much power is making it to the ground, and now i do. 400wtq by 2500rpm

Those seem like healthy numbers for 91 oct for sure! Congrats

[BAN_M2C]

Went to Real Street Performance on their DYNOJET this last Friday, have updated numbers.

Mods:
DINAN Carbon Intake
DINAN Dual Core Intercooler
DINAN Sport Tuner
Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe
DINAN Resonator Delete
DINAN Free Flow Exhaust
93 Octane

[SeanWRT]

Hit full boost at near 3500, make 410whp and hold torque of just below 300 at fuel cutoff. I thought you did a S55 swap LOL

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Went to Real Street Performance on their DYNOJET this last Friday, have updated numbers.

Mods:
DINAN Carbon Intake
DINAN Dual Core Intercooler
DINAN Sport Tuner
Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe
DINAN Resonator Delete
DINAN Free Flow Exhaust
93 Octane

[SeanWRT]

Excellent power band for 91.

Would data log and look into the torque dip seen at 4k if I were you though. Could be throttle closure & timing pull on overboost.

Originally Posted by CSL_E36

Ok guys/gals i got some results. Unfortunately i dont have a delta because i started to mod the car with 75 miles lol.

Mod list:
ER catless DP
ER IC +TIC+chargepipe
Dinan Intake
Dinan exhaust and resonator delete
Rktunes flash

This was on 91 (if that) using a dinky fan. I believe a larger fan and a splash of 100 oct would help pick up the tq a bit, but I am not looking for glory numbers, wanted to get an idea of how much power is making it to the ground, and now i do. 400wtq by 2500rpm

[BAN_M2C]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Hit full boost at near 3500, make 410whp and hold torque of just below 300 at fuel cutoff. I thought you did a S55 swap LOL

S55 but with an N55 sound

[SeanWRT]

Let's save this for this time next year when new m2 CS owners show up here doing us damages...

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

S55 but with an N55 sound

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Went to Real Street Performance on their DYNOJET this last Friday, have updated numbers.

Mods:
DINAN Carbon Intake
DINAN Dual Core Intercooler
DINAN Sport Tuner
Fabspeed Sport Cat Downpipe
DINAN Resonator Delete
DINAN Free Flow Exhaust
93 Octane

Fascinating numbers. It deserves its own thread. Just make sure you provide baseline figures to keep the naysayers from stating "yeah but he probably put down 380 stock". What was your baseline btw?

At this point, why not go for the big turbo and complete the P2 package? You should get a 10% discount off of the turbo because you've already purchased the other components. An extra ~1.5 psi could propel you into the 430-440 whp range, not to mention the crazy tq.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Fascinating numbers. It deserves its own thread. Just make sure you provide baseline figures to keep the naysayers from stating "yeah but he probably put down 380 stock". What was your baseline btw?

At this point, why not go for the big turbo and complete the P2 package? You should get a 10% discount off of the turbo because you've already purchased the other components. An extra ~1.5 psi could propel you into the 430-440 whp range, not to mention the crazy tq.

Yeah curious to see the baseline on this as well.

[BAN_M2C]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Fascinating numbers. It deserves its own thread. Just make sure you provide baseline figures to keep the naysayers from stating "yeah but he probably put down 380 stock". What was your baseline btw?

At this point, why not go for the big turbo and complete the P2 package? You should get a 10% discount off of the turbo because you've already purchased the other components. An extra ~1.5 psi could propel you into the 430-440 whp range, not to mention the crazy tq.

Not thread opening worthy, I actually wanted to share with this thread specifically since you guys posting here have consistently proven to be very knowledgeable on the car and have provided a lot of great feedback always.

I failed to do a baseline at the beginning of owning the car. The closest I have for a baseline was when the car only had the Fabspeed Sport Cat installed and the Bypass Exhaust which I then removed.

358whp and 407tq

I felt the car pull much harder after the downpipe was installed.



When I changed the Fabspeed Bypass out for all the gamma of DINAN products everything went on at once.

But once again it felt like a completely different car. Power adder at that point was the Sport Tuner.

Have not considered the Turbo Upgrade since it also involves fueling upgrades and so far the car pulls nice and I have not seen Limp Mode, maybe because I have avoided it with the larger intercooler.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Not thread opening worthy, I actually wanted to share with this thread specifically since you guys posting here have consistently proven to be very knowledgeable on the car and have provided a lot of great feedback always.

I failed to do a baseline at the beginning of owning the car. The closest I have for a baseline was when the car only had the Fabspeed Sport Cat installed and the Bypass Exhaust which I then removed.

358whp and 407tq

I felt the car pull much harder after the downpipe was installed.



When I changed the Fabspeed Bypass out for all the gamma of DINAN products everything went on at once.

But once again it felt like a completely different car. Power adder at that point was the Sport Tuner.

Have not considered the Turbo Upgrade since it also involves fueling upgrades and so far the car pulls nice and I have not seen Limp Mode, maybe because I have avoided it with the larger intercooler.

Very interesting that you're putting down more power than the P2 Dinan's. Looks like a downpipe creates more power than the Dinan big turbo?

[FSociety]

BAN_M2 thanks for the post did you realize your Latest Dyno Chart/Video is in STD/Smoothing: 0 ? vs your EuroCharged Dyno chart is SAE:Smoothing 5

You should of just done your last pull at the recent dyno in Dinan Stage0 to make all things equal

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Have not considered the Turbo Upgrade since it also involves fueling upgrades and so far the car pulls nice and I have not seen Limp Mode, maybe because I have avoided it with the larger intercooler.

Fueling upgrades for stage 4? Now I'm

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Stage IV

Fueling upgrades for stage 4? Now I'm

The piggy does all the "fueling upgrades" for the Dinan Stage 4.

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Not thread opening worthy, I actually wanted to share with this thread specifically since you guys posting here have consistently proven to be very knowledgeable on the car and have provided a lot of great feedback always.

I failed to do a baseline at the beginning of owning the car. The closest I have for a baseline was when the car only had the Fabspeed Sport Cat installed and the Bypass Exhaust which I then removed.

358whp and 407tq

I felt the car pull much harder after the downpipe was installed.



When I changed the Fabspeed Bypass out for all the gamma of DINAN products everything went on at once.

But once again it felt like a completely different car. Power adder at that point was the Sport Tuner.

Have not considered the Turbo Upgrade since it also involves fueling upgrades and so far the car pulls nice and I have not seen Limp Mode, maybe because I have avoided it with the larger intercooler.

Let's guestimate a 20 whp gain for the DP. That's 338 whp completely stock which is inline with most others. So somehow 53 whp was gained through the Dinan sport tuner. The intake and exhaust provide nominal gains, at best. FSociety may be right. Smoothing is off.

[BAN_M2C]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Very interesting that you're putting down more power than the P2 Dinan's. Looks like a downpipe creates more power than the Dinan big turbo?

It shouldn't.. wouldn't make sense.

Originally Posted by FSociety

BAN_M2 thanks for the post did you realize your Latest Dyno Chart/Video is in STD/Smoothing: 0 ? vs your EuroCharged Dyno chart is SAE:Smoothing 5

You should of just done your last pull at the recent dyno in Dinan Stage0 to make all things equal

Only had three pulls available, first two were done in Sport+ and the last one Race mode. I should have done a first run on the default mode. Remember I don't have a Dinantronics which has a stage 0 or 4. It has valet, normal, Sport, Sport+ and Race.

What I would have liked to do was rent the dyno for an hour and do multiple pulls in different modes, but didnt make sense if I am not doing a full tune. This was to see where the car was since my shop was taking another car to get fully tuned on the dyno so I just tagged along.

I want a full tune in the long run and preferably tuned on the street not on the dyno, that's why I am really interested in what BM3 has been doing.

Originally Posted by Stage IV

Fueling upgrades for stage 4? Now I'm

Why confused?

Isn't a higher flowing fuel pump part of the bigger turbo upgrade?

https://www.dinancars.com/product/r4...ries&mid=1243/

There are other options out there from what I have gathered, but I thought the Stage 4 of DINAN included fueling upgrade. I might be wrong cause I really have not looked into the full DINAN packages.

EDIT: Just checked and none of the DINAN packages include a fuel pump upgrade, I was under the impression they did!

[BAN_M2C]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

Let's guestimate a 20 whp gain for the DP. That's 338 whp completely stock which is inline with most others. So somehow 53 whp was gained through the Dinan sport tuner. The intake and exhaust provide nominal gains, at best. FSociety may be right. Smoothing is off.

Usually stock baselines are between 335-340 from what I have seen.

The FS Sport Cat from Fabspeed is promoted as 16whp and 40tq gains, but that was based on one single car they slapped it on. I don't know who else with that setup has dyno'ed or who has done a before and after just those mods.

The Intake I still question its gains. The OEM intake is an efficient design. Sometimes aftermarket intakes hinder performance because they take hot air in from the engine bay. I went with DINAN because of the closed filter type and because it looked nice in carbon so truly I expected no gains from it, but they do list it at 5-7hp gain.

Same with the FMIC, I bought to avoid getting power pulled back when IAT rises, but again DINAN does list it as having power gains.

I am ruling out any gains from the FMIC and Intake.

The Sport Tuner from what others have said its night and day on the feel. But I don't think it would yield more that 40whp.

I was expecting a read of about 380-385 and 420tq to be honest.

Regardless the car feels nice, pulls solid and its linear power. No turbo lag with the bigger intercooler and IAT reading are much lower now even with higher ambient temps.

I wont do more now, but at some point I will upgrade turbo, fuel pump and do full tune and stop there.