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I'm pretty new to these cars but I would be highly skeptical of that guarantee no matter the make or model. |
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05-17-2020, 12:57 PM | #49 |
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I had the Carbahn tune installed last week, have been able to log a few hundred miles of driving and my initial impression is: wow, the car pulls extremely hard all the way through to redline. The extra power is immediately noticeable, the tune is smooth like stock, very happy with the way power comes in, mid-range is a monster, traction control light flickers all the way through 5th gear. I'm very impressed with how the chassis handles the extra power. I'm loving the car all over again.
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05-17-2020, 06:20 PM | #50 | ||
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Also, Steve Dinan has over 30 years of warranty coverage with little hassle. I would imagine his current company isn't about to torpedo that reputation. And it's a factory matching warranty. At the end of the day tho, go with your gut. If you don't think they will live up to a warranty for their $10k stage 2 with engine rebuild, then don't buy it. That's what I would say.
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05-17-2020, 08:46 PM | #51 |
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So. Here's the dilemma.
I'm sold on the Carbahn tune. Two options: 1. Pay the local BMW shop in Denver to pull the DME, FedEx it to Carbahn, wait to get it back, and then have it reinstalled. Said BMW shop will be doing the SSK install, , CDV-Delete, stainless brake lines install, heat exchanger install, M3/M4 intake ports, and crank bolt capture kit (a lot of this is "since you're there already, might as well do this.....") 2. My wife's 50th is next month, and we're having a party for her at our friends house about 90 minutes from Carbahn. It's a 17 hour drive (1.5 days) each way from Denver. I *could* drive the car out and have Carbahn flash the DME while I'm in Cali. Thoughts? Which way would you jump? TIA-- R. |
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05-17-2020, 08:54 PM | #52 |
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If your going to be close by and have the time why wouldn't you go in there?
If anything good opportunity to have a nosey around their facility, see the process etc.. I'll get a tune at some point and either of these would be strong contenders, but more than happy with stock tune for now. Reliability is important as my car see's track time. I have driven and M3 CS and the power was glorious. Mostly I'd be curious to see if they remove some of the boost loss between shifts on a manual car, although I do love the 'waap' sound it makes on full throttle up shifts. Power is something you become accustomed to overtime so just remember once you start it's a slippery slope! |
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05-18-2020, 12:18 AM | #54 | |
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05-18-2020, 01:43 AM | #55 | |
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From the Carbahnwebsite: "A note on down pipes (removing the catalyst). We have run back to back dyno runs with the cat on and off and the power gain is much smaller than most people claim. We all need to breathe the air. Its difficult to get your car its required emissions test without catalyst and it’s illegal." "*Warranty exclusions: ...damage resulting from the use of other manufacturer’s products in conjunction with CarBahn Autoworks’ products or systems..." My point was once modifications get significantly outside a factory spec car how could they realistically cover it under a factory warranty? Hence the reason they state the above on their website. Covering a stock car with their tune seems far more guaranteed. They are controlling most of the variables in that case. |
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05-18-2020, 02:20 AM | #56 | ||
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They won't void your warranty if you combine with another company's parts. But if that part causes the issue, they won't pay out on your warranty. Seems reasonable to me.
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Now I focus more on handling and driving experience things (like suspension or short shift kits) and if I tune, I go for a reliable yet punchy tune and I'm content. I guess for me, when I track and AutoX I'm not really in the position where I think "yeah this needs 200 more whp". But before I started tracking and doing AutoX (EvoX and earlier day), I was tuning cars to all hell for the street. Took my monster EvoX to a track day once, and that was it for the crazy power mods for me. It was just impossible to have fun driving that powerful car on a track. I'm not a drag strip/highway racing hero, so not much need to feel like I'm going to die every time I want to stomp on it. Just want enough to put a smile on my face. By the way, none of this is to throw shade at anybody who does high power mods, because they keep aftermarket companies in the business. It's just not for me.
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If so, thoughts on it? TIA. R. |
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It's a causation thing. Let's break this down. Some manufacturers offer warranties that say, if you combine our product with some other product your warranty is automatically voided no matter what CAUSED the failure/defect. Carbahn is saying that if you combine our product (here a tune) with some other product (here a set of catless downpipes) your warranty is NOT automatically voided. However, if a failure/defect occurs, and the CAUSE of that failure/defect resulted from that other product, then we will not pay out on your warranty (not the same thing as voiding your warranty before causation is even determined). I hope that makes more sense to you re the legal distinction I am making. I am an attorney and I work in these types of product issues daily. Believe me when I say that their stated warranty and stated position on combining it with other aftermarket parts reconcile with no issues. They are not mutually exclusive positions.
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I mean... Catless isn't really as big of a deal as people think? All you're doing is relieving back pressure from the exhaust. Same with the intakes, the change from stock to BMS is quite minimal. I've been running catless on a stock car for about 6k miles and have had no issues. I typed up exactly what was told to me on the phone. He asked exactly what brands I was using on what car, what tune I planned on getting, what would potentially void the warranty, etc... Catless/Intakes don't blow engines anywhere near as often as turbos/meth. I think this whole thing is being overthought. |
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