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      09-26-2016, 01:13 PM   #89
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The n55 is over, so produce it only for m2 and x4 m40i is crazy. So s55 or b58 evo at 390 to keep distance from m4 and 240i?
Possible. Remember n54 in the 1M?
Bmw stopped using this engine on regular series cars, but used it for 1M in 2011 and for 335is between 2011 and 2013. Essentially 2 years that engine was used for 1 low volume model.
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Personally I think they will do it because BMW needs a racecar again...I know they are racing the M6 in a half hearted effort. They need something small that handles well...

Also I think it would be hard to up the boost on the N55/B58 with out ruining the track-ability...when you are making a lot of boost it takes a while for it to spool up. My N55 is great at 17psi, but it takes a while to get there.
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About time to tick at least three more boxes that didn't make it to the final cut for the base M2 (but were mentioned in marketing materials).
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      09-26-2016, 01:25 PM   #92
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S55 squeezed into the base M2 engine compartment and the test mule doesn't feature a power dome to host it all.

So, if the final version of this angry M2 puppy gets a power dome à la M3 and M4, we know that it's just for show.
"Squeezed"? It's essentially the same size as an N55. Of course the "power dome" isn't needed. Or do you think the air/water setup sits much higher?
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2018 M2 CS in Donington Grey
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M1/M2 buttons on steering wheel

Just the original wish list... Make it happen BMW!
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      09-26-2016, 01:39 PM   #94
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About time to tick at least three more boxes that didn't make it to the final cut for the base M2 (but were mentioned in marketing materials).
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Just a thought...I wonder if they'll give it that 8K tacho now
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Well, this should be a cool car. My guess is that this "full-fat" M2 will be ala the M4 GTS, and probably be as rare and almost as costly. But I guess we'll see...
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2018 M2 CS in Donington Grey
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CF roof
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M mirrors
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M1/M2 buttons on steering wheel

Just the original wish list... Make it happen BMW!
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2018 M2 CS in Donington Grey
S55
CF roof
Bonnet Dome
M mirrors
Proper M Seats
M1/M2 buttons on steering wheel

Just the original wish list... Make it happen BMW!
In other words, how the M2 should have been all along lol
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Just a thought...I wonder if they'll give it that 8K tacho now
Haha, yeah, that 8.5K rpm instrument panel glitch on page 64 of the M2 Technical Training:





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do you guys think this would have a higher starting price point than the m4? I would hope not..
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How about throwing in CF roof & Sakhir Orange options along with that S55
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do you guys think this would have a higher starting price point than the m4? I would hope not..
If it's a limited run car — like an M2 equivalent to the M4 GTS — I absolutely think it will. If it's a series production car, things become a lot more challenging.

BMW priced the M2 where it did for a reason. They built the car to be an entry point to the M-car line up. If they put the S55 in to a series production M2, they create a problem on the performance side of things. The M2 is already nipping at the M4's heels. They'd also eliminate a key differentiator of the M4. Both of these are significant challenges for BMW.
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This is about the 5th post on the S55. Not going to happen in the regular M2, there will be a special/limited edition CSL type M2 with the S55, if you want it be ready to spend near 6 figures.
IMO,there is no way that BMW will have two different engines in the MY18 M2.If an M2 CSL gets the S55,so will the regular M2.Remember,the E46 M3 CSL had the same S54 engine as the regular E46 M3.They just twaeked it to increase the horsepower to 360.Who even knows for sure if there will be an M2 CSL.The upgraded MY18 M2 could just have the competition package.
This would be true if the N55 was capable of producing 400hp without a serious FMIC and catless DP on stock turbo. But it isn't. In reality the m2 should have came with this motor to begin with instead of N55. Don't get me wrong N55 is a fun engine but not good enough for an M car.
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What was the price hike when the Z3M went from S52 to S54? I'd expect something similar here.
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What was the price hike when the Z3M went from S52 to S54? I'd expect something similar here.
$3265. Seems awfully low all things considered here. Mid 50's S55 M2? Why would there be a reason to buy the M4?
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Man people are slow on this site... this engine IS NOT going in the regular M2... this would be a death wish on the part of BMW and the resale of the current N55 M2... also how would they price this car? Same as an M3? OK

This is for a specific variant called the CS which I am almost sure will cost 90 to 100K...
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Man people are slow on this site... this engine IS NOT going in the regular M2... this would be a death wish on the part of BMW and the resale of the current N55 M2... also how would they price this car? Same as an M3? OK

This is for a specific variant called the CS which I am almost sure will cost 90 to 100K...
Why is everyone so convinced this is an s55? What if it is an M2 N55 (N55B30T0) with a bigger turbo, could explain the different exhaust sound, and an air to water intercooler, explains lack of the front bumper air to air intercooler?

Is that out of the question?

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Maybe a new rear differential on test ??????????
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Why is everyone so convinced this is an s55? What if it is an N55 with a bigger turbo, could explain the different exhaust sound, with a water intercooler, lack of the front bumper intercooler, from the s55? Is that out of the question?
I wouldn't expect to see BMW develop the N55 further. If anything, a B58-based engine would make more sense than a further developed N55. The B58 uses an air-to-water intercooler system that is integrated in to the intake, which would also be a plausible explanation for a lack of FMIC on this car.
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Man people are slow on this site... this engine IS NOT going in the regular M2... this would be a death wish on the part of BMW and the resale of the current N55 M2... also how would they price this car? Same as an M3? OK

This is for a specific variant called the CS which I am almost sure will cost 90 to 100K...
+1 I'm betting my money on this outcome....
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So what is the conclusion? No M2 after MY 2017? and M2 CS will take over its place?

N55 M2 - MY 2015 - MY 2017
S55 M2 CS - MY 2018 - MY 2020??

In the video, it actually sounds like an M2 with S55 (more closer to M3/M4 exhaust). The billion dollar question is: What will happen to the current M2?

To me, looks like the CS variant will be more expensive.
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