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      10-28-2023, 09:40 AM   #1805
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M2SS, you’re on 10mm all around? You said future so I thought you’re just planning it.
I'm currently 10mm all round.

Future Classic is the brand name of the spacers.
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      10-29-2023, 10:18 AM   #1806
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I always figure out what people have found to be acceptably-flush in the real world, then work backwards from there.

For example, stock wheel specs are:
19 x 9 +29
19 x 10 +40

Lowered to BMW's recommended 595/600 (vs 620/620 stock) and running stock tires people have determined that 12mm spacers in the front, and 10mm in the rear gets them acceptably-flush.

So now we effectively have:
19 x 9 +17
19 x 10 +30

Now it comes to the tires, and if you're keeping the same overall diameter (which you should, and most people do), then it's all about tread width because tw is where the shoulder of the tire sits.

Looking at the stock PSS star spec tires you get the following tread widths:
8.8 front
9.4 rear

Looking at those numbers, and calculating from other tires, you will see that the front PSS 245 star spec is .4" too wide, which is why many people modifying their OE wheel specs have rubbing in the front, and not in the rear. 8.4 & 9.4 would have been perfect.

In any case, once you have those numbers you can extrapolate from there.

19 x 9 + 17 with a 8.4 tw
19 x 10 +30 with a 9.4 tw

Then you just use a calculator like willtheyfit.com to translate to whatever width of wheel you want. To get the same fitment as above with 9.5 & 10.5 it looks like this:

19 x 9.5 + 24 with an 8.4 tw tire
19 x 10.5 +37 with an 9.4 tw tire

However, this results in even more stretch to the tire sidewall than stock, which is where people get in trouble with trying to do standard calculations on tire sizes without taking the specific tire tread [...]
What the…. I think I’ve got a headache now.
so in conclusion, it’s a good thing I went with the stock sizes otherwise I’d end up with trying to find what tire with what TW would fit without rubbing while considering the lowered position. Just slap on 10mm all around and be done with it. 😉
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      10-29-2023, 12:11 PM   #1807
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What the…. I think I’ve got a headache now.
so in conclusion, it’s a good thing I went with the stock sizes otherwise I’d end up with trying to find what tire with what TW would fit without rubbing while considering the lowered position. Just slap on 10mm all around and be done with it. 😉
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What size spacers are you using?
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What size spacers are you using?
I’m running Future Classic spacers 10 mm F/R
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I’m running Future Classic spacers 10 mm F/R
That's exactly what I'm running...thought your setup looked familiar...
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I’m running Future Classic spacers 10 mm F/R
Is there a difference, say from a Turner spacers? Just a brand preference? Our roads here are pretty bad and sometimes my front Bilstein suspension actually hit the bottom range. Would adding 10 F&R clear, I'd lose the flange if I go any thinner.
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Is there a difference, say from a Turner spacers? Just a brand preference? Our roads here are pretty bad and sometimes my front Bilstein suspension actually hit the bottom range. Would adding 10 F&R clear, I'd lose the flange if I go any thinner.
I went with Future Classic because they’re the only spacers to my knowledge that actually have dedicated hub bolts (2 per spacer) to ensure secure and perfect fitment. It’s incredibly convenient when taking wheels off as the spacer doesn’t move and you don’t have to waste time aligning it when putting wheels on with lug bolts (easier if you have wheel studs). They essentially provide a complete kit — spacers, hub bolts, copper anti seize paste and appropriately extended lug bolts. I’ve had them on for 50k km and no issues whatsoever, very happy with them.

I think you’ll be fine adding 10 mm F/R spacers if you have OEM wheels 788m, 437m or 763m. Some go for more aggressive 12F/10R on OEM wheels. Really depends on the wheels, suspension height, camber etc.

I have been running M Peformance coilovers with stock alignment, these spacers and 437m wheels for 50k km without any issues.
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That's a great point, it would be a challenge to mount a wheel + spacer if using the regular lug bolts. That alone is worth the price.

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Hell yeah man, I was just there not too long ago myself! Great car for The Dragon!

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I love those wheels! Are those euro spec mirrors??
OE Ferric 437M for the F80/F82, and AutoID mirror assemblies.

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