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      10-07-2019, 03:03 PM   #1
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Is sport plus too sensitive? (DCT)

I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience as me. I’ve been spending more time driving the car in sport plus / dct (manual shift mode) / with traction off. If I let off the gas at all in first and get back on it the car seems to buck a little bit, kinda like when you are learning to drive for the first time. Even if I try to give it slow gradual acceleration it has done it and is very hard to drive smooth. Obviously I have no problems if I just mash the gas 100% and go through the gears. I have a hard time driving the car smooth in these settings, and like to think I am a fairly experienced driver and drive manuals as well. Anyone else have this issue? Or feel the sport plus in these settings is to sensitive?
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I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience as me. I’ve been spending more time driving the car in sport plus / dct (manual shift mode) / with traction off. If I let off the gas at all in first and get back on it the car seems to buck a little bit, kinda like when you are learning to drive for the first time. Even if I try to give it slow gradual acceleration it has done it and is very hard to drive smooth. Obviously I have no problems if I just mash the gas 100% and go through the gears. I have a hard time driving the car smooth in these settings, and like to think I am a fairly experienced driver and drive manuals as well. Anyone else have this issue? Or feel the sport plus in these settings is to sensitive?
Sport+ isn't meant to necessarily be smooth. I just throw it in comfort if smooth is what I'm looking for
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In general I've found this isn't the easiest car to drive. But so fun. The little burst of gas it gives right as you come to a stop is weird.
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OP, I felt the same way for literally the first year of ownership.

Drove in Sport but found Sport+ too jerky and generally unpleasant.

Decided to try it again at the beginning of the summer and found it to be much smoother.

Is that due to a years worth of experience with this car or further break-in (17k). Could be a combination or my imagination but I exclusively drive it in Sport+ these days once it's warmed up. Occasionally pop it to Comfort if I'm going trough a long stretch of heavy traffic.

Should note - my car is DCT.
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OP, I felt the same way for literally the first year of ownership.

Drove in Sport but found Sport+ too jerky and generally unpleasant.

Decided to try it again at the beginning of the summer and found it to be much smoother.

Is that due to a years worth of experience with this car or further break-in (17k). Could be a combination or my imagination but I exclusively drive it in Sport+ these days once it's warmed up. Occasionally pop it to Comfort if I'm going trough a long stretch of heavy traffic.

Should note - my car is DCT.
same.

I started mostly with Sport because Sport+ felt too twitchy... but now after the summer, i've tried Sport+ and it felt smoother but more aggressive, so now I usually drive in Sport+. Except when kids are in the car, which I drive in Efficient mostly lol
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I was wondering if anyone else had the same experience as me. I’ve been spending more time driving the car in sport plus / dct (manual shift mode) / with traction off. If I let off the gas at all in first and get back on it the car seems to buck a little bit, kinda like when you are learning to drive for the first time. Even if I try to give it slow gradual acceleration it has done it and is very hard to drive smooth. Obviously I have no problems if I just mash the gas 100% and go through the gears. I have a hard time driving the car smooth in these settings, and like to think I am a fairly experienced driver and drive manuals as well. Anyone else have this issue? Or feel the sport plus in these settings is to sensitive?
I also found the throttle response too sensitive in sport+ on the track, it's hard to modulate the accelerator exiting from the corners, much better in sport. But in sport+ you have the additional cooling that can be useful on the track.
Even the dct in mode 3 is too abrupt, it can compromise the traction in the gear change, better in mode 2.
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I've gotten very comfortable with the throttle in Sport+ and the Transmission set to "2". 3 on the DCT is too aggressive for general wandering about in auto mode (when I use it). I'm not really happy with the throttle on Efficient and Sport mode, neither of them feel that natural even after 8600 miles and 13 months. I don't know if that's just me or some bit of learned instinct from so many years of manual Integra's and RSX's from '94 to '13. I got used to the Sport+ throttle, even in traffic, very quickly.
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Yes. On a bumpy road on light throttle the bumps might cause me to get on throttle just slightly to accelerate more than I wanted, then my foot would lift slightly off throttle due to the new forward momentum of the car. Causes some 'bouncing'. A chain reaction of sorts. Always happens to me on specific roads/specific bumps. Only solution is to give more throttle or switch to Sport. More throttle not always OK in a residential area. I like the extreme character of Sport+.
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Yes. On a bumpy road on light throttle the bumps might cause me to get on throttle just slightly to accelerate more than I wanted, then my foot would lift slightly off throttle due to the new forward momentum of the car. Causes some 'bouncing'. A chain reaction of sorts. Always happens to me on specific roads/specific bumps. Only solution is to give more throttle or switch to Sport. More throttle not always OK in a residential area. I like the extreme character of Sport+.
This is exactly what I was trying to portray, I would get some bouncing. I would lift off slightly and get the “bounce” because it is super sensitive. It happened with someone in the car and was pretty embarrassing.
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Doesn't seem sensitive to me at all. SP on my '15 M4 was much more sensitive.
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yeah it happens to me. its worst when starting at a turn, but basically throttle is very sensitive, you hit it and foot comes up a bit as part of acceleration, that decelerates and it sets up a tank-slapper between foot and gas.. once you get out of first it's fine. I learned to be super light on it and shift almost immediately on rolling into second. OR I hit the M1 button which is comfort/mild shifting and its much smoother
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I think this is a S55 thing - I've had the same experience with my F80. It almost looks like you're trying to learn how to drive a manual transmission.

I find that it happens more often when the car isn't yet up to temperature and in Sport + on the throttle, manual shifting on the DCT.

Doesn't seem to happen nearly as much once the engine is hot though - at least to me. I have also adjusted to the way the Sport + throttle behaves over time as well...
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OP, I felt the same way for literally the first year of ownership.

Drove in Sport but found Sport+ too jerky and generally unpleasant.

Decided to try it again at the beginning of the summer and found it to be much smoother.

Is that due to a years worth of experience with this car or further break-in (17k). Could be a combination or my imagination but I exclusively drive it in Sport+ these days once it's warmed up. Occasionally pop it to Comfort if I'm going trough a long stretch of heavy traffic.

Should note - my car is DCT.
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same.

I started mostly with Sport because Sport+ felt too twitchy... but now after the summer, i've tried Sport+ and it felt smoother but more aggressive, so now I usually drive in Sport+. Except when kids are in the car, which I drive in Efficient mostly lol
Sounds like adaptations.
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