BMW M2 Coupe (F87): Wallpapers, Specifications, Info, Pictures, Videos

c63er · 10-14-2015, 07:28 PM

Car looks cool for sure.

But reading a lot of replies I feel like I'm in bizarro world. Thing is wider then an f30. How is that considered a small or compact car by any stretch of the imagination ??

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bradleyland

I presumed that he meant objective reasons. The cost is the only one I could come up with.

Some of us don't buy cars that we think are to big and have design details we don't like.

Cope · 10-14-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bradleyland

Other than that, there are no good reasons. The M2 weighs just about the same, has a less powerful engine, and lacks some of the little distinctive details of the M4. If the money isn't an issue, I can't see a single reason to go with the M2.

You're forgetting size, some of us can't stand large cars.

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

Some of us don't buy cars that we think are to big and have design details we don't like.

Wow had I just kept reading I would have saw someone pointed this out. I also think that if someone wants something different, the M2 can provide that. M3/4s are arguably too common, if allocations for the M2 remain low that might be a huge positive.

hoyasaxa · 10-14-2015, 08:13 PM

Couple questions:

- are there electronically adjustable dampers? I'm not seeing it, but could be missing it.

- is it 365 or 370 hp? I've seen it differently whether expressed in hp or brake hp

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

Couple questions:

- are there electronically adjustable dampers? I'm not seeing it, but could be missing it.

- is it 365 or 370 hp? I've seen it differently whether expressed in hp or brake hp

no, it's fixed suspension... they probably saved 2k on the price for that...

hoyasaxa · 10-14-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

no, it's fixed suspension... they probably saved 2k on the price for that...

But... even the M235i..? Kind of weird.

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

But... even the M235i..? Kind of weird.

probably similar reason why no M seats, mirrors, M button, weight reduction etc.... probably just trying to keep price down

you can't get Cayman GT4 specs car for mid 50k's

hoyasaxa · 10-14-2015, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

probably similar reason why no M seats, mirrors, no weight reduction etc.... probably just trying to keep price down

you can't get Cayman GT4 specs car for mid 50k's

truth. If it means I can afford to get into the car, I'll gladly make the sacrifices. I would love to replace the 228i with this in about 18 months.

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

truth. If it means I can afford to get into the car, I'll gladly make the sacrifices. I would love to replace the 228i with this in about 18 months.

Yes, as long as there is supply and availability....
if dealers were only getting 1-2 /months for the M235 can't see them getting many more if at at all for the M2....

M2 will probably be a really hard car to get for the first year or so and that = mark up

bobloblaw · 10-14-2015, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Adem1534

There are subjective points. Like thinking that it looks better. M4 rear flares are weak as hell compared to the M2's.

I think this is subjective too though.

From the straight on rear view, I think the M4 flares are better

M2 flares look weak from this view IMO, especially compared to the sketches

Both show them better from this angle, and I think the M2 is better here and in the side view

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

But... even the M235i..? Kind of weird.

I wouldn't want the adaptive M suspension.I just want the firmest sport M suspension that M engineers and that is what the M2 will have.The M2 has a real M suspension,the M235i doesn't.

GVIFlyer · 10-14-2015, 08:53 PM

Interesting when viewed through the lens of Nurburgring /Nordschleife times.

M46 M3 - 7:50

F82 M4 - 7:52

New M2 - 7:58

E92 M3 - 8:05

I would suppose that they carefully trimmed the M2's motor to keep it slower than the flagship M4. Fascinating that the 333 hp M46 M3 is still fastest in the venue that is, for me, the true test of a car.

bobloblaw · 10-14-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GVFlyer

Interesting when viewed through the lens of Nurburgring /Nordschleife times.

M46 M3 - 7:50

F82 M4 - 7:52

New M2 - 7:58

E92 M3 - 8:05

I would suppose that they carefully trimmed the M2's motor to keep it slower than the flagship M4. Fascinating that the 333 hp M46 M3 is still fastest in the venue that is, for me, the true test of a car.

Where are you getting that time for the e46 M3? Wikipedia has it at 8:22

edit: m3 CSL is 7:50

Killer-Bimmer · 10-14-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishCoffee

Hmm... One of those choices doesn't fit. The M2 and the GT350 are options that I am mulling over as well. If a new Camaro 1LE is released then that is an option as well.

Toss out the 328d unless you need the space.

If you lease then probably the M2. I doubt the GT350 will lease well.

If you track regularly then the GT350 will probably be quicker. Certainly if you get the track package.

If you have never done ED I would highly recommend it. It is the balls.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I do track, but I don't really care about being the fastest. (I'm taking my 1993 Celica GT to Summit this weekend instead of the 335i

).

I definitely want something LOUD but that can also handle, that's why the GT350.
M2 because it might be affordable and should be awesome to drive and maintenance free. (and ED see below).

I *am* going to lease my next car.

The 328d because of savings and bc it's not a bad car and because I'm planning an awesome trip to Germany, including renting my dream car (Lancia HF Integrale...my nickname ;-)) and driving it on the Nurburgring and I REALLY want to do a ED (I can't with the GT350...).

I think my next step should be to test drive the Mustang.

This is too funny... I know of many that don't think the GT350 and the M2 are cross shopped, but they are being cross shopped because Ford has hit a home run!

Wife and I were planning ED for next September, but for me I feel they have compromised. So now I just put my name on the list for the GT350R... I already have luxury speed in the M5 so now I need a hooligan car and the R fits the bill, though I was hoping the M2 would be it.

For me BMW didn't put all the cards on the table where Ford has so I'm rewarding them with my money. My ears will be rewarded with 8,250rpm of NA V8... Never thought I would buy a Mustang, but I always leave my options open...

I still want to do ED, but that'll be for another day...

Cheers

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GVFlyer

Interesting when viewed through the lens of Nurburgring /Nordschleife times.

M46 M3 - 7:50

F82 M4 - 7:52

New M2 - 7:58

E92 M3 - 8:05

I would suppose that they carefully trimmed the M2's motor to keep it slower than the flagship M4. Fascinating that the 333 hp M46 M3 is still fastest in the venue that is, for me, the true test of a car.

I didn't realize that the E46 M3 was faster around the track than the M4 and the E92 M3.
Do all of these cars have DCT and SMG for the E46 M3?

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bobloblaw

Where are you getting that time for the e46 M3? Wikipedia has it at 8:22

edit: m3 CSL is 7:50

OK,E46 M3 CSL with SMG.That explains why it is faster but still impressive after all these years.

filet.M2c · 10-14-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobloblaw

I think this is subjective too though.

From the straight on rear view, I think the M4 flares are better

M2 flares look weak from this view IMO, especially compared to the sketches

It helps that this M4 is probably rocking 305+ rears. If you throw the same wheel setup on the M2 you would have a similar effect. Aside from the aesthetics, I hope this car reps a larger turbo than the M235i. If that is the case then this car is a definite forerunner for me.

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

I wouldn't want the adaptive M suspension.I just want the firmest sport M suspension that M engineers and that is what the M2 will have.The M2 has a real M suspension,the M235i doesn't.

so the M4 doesn't have a real M suspension ?

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

so the M4 doesn't have a real M suspension ?

Of course it does,but I wouldn't order it with the optional adaptive M suspension.I would order it with the standard sport M suspension.I have driven the car with the adaptive M suspension and I only like the suspension in the sport plus setting and that is what the M2 will have.IMO there is no reason to have a comfort setting in an M car.

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

so the M4 doesn't have a real M suspension ?

Of course it does,but I wouldn't order it with the optional adaptive M suspension.I would order it with the standard sport M suspension.I have driven the car with the adaptive M suspension and I only like the suspension in the sport plus setting and that is what the M2 will have.IMO there is no reason to have a comfort setting in an M car.

So you think it's ok not to have the option to have softer suspension for daily driving and I instead have only one harsh suspension?

SW19 · 10-14-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

So you think it's ok not to have the option to have softer suspension for daily driving and I instead have only one harsh suspension?

Yes,believe it or not there are still people that don't care about having a softer suspension setting in a sports car.If you want that option in an M car just buy an M3 or an M4.

pikcachu · 10-14-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nantucket

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

So you think it's ok not to have the option to have softer suspension for daily driving and I instead have only one harsh suspension?

Yes,believe it or not there are still people that don't care about having a softer suspension setting in a sports car.If you want that option in an M car just buy an M3 or an M4.

It's just it would be nice to have both options but at the same time they can't make an m4 for low 50s and hence why no m seats, not much m engine, m button, adaptive suspension or weight reduction

Else it would be low 60s and then not much sense to have M4

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