Lost my key

Rupes · 12-03-2018, 08:40 PM

Dealer wants to charge $380 and wasn't sure if any additional coding would be necessary beyond that (only talked to the parts guy).

Anyone know a more affordable way to do this?

DanG · 12-03-2018, 09:12 PM

You can only get a key from a dealer and they need to program it for your car. No other option.

AndrewC1989 · 12-03-2018, 09:13 PM

$380 is actually a good price for an OEM replacement. Normally they go for like $500.

No coding required AFAIK, the new key will come with pre programmed for your car.

GasBurnlife(landapanda) · 12-03-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

$380 is actually a good price for an OEM replacement. Normally they go for like $500.

No coding required AFAIK, the new key will come with pre programmed for your car.

Check to make sure you don't have the key protection on the car. I declined mine, but the dealer comped the first year anyway.

Rupes · 12-03-2018, 10:35 PM

Thanks all. You'd think with a device this expensive they would have some type of tracking or app that could show you the keys last location.

///M TOWN · 12-03-2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

$380 is actually a good price for an OEM replacement. Normally they go for like $500.

No coding required AFAIK, the new key will come with pre programmed for your car.

So they do that with just the VIN number, correct?

///M TOWN · 12-03-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupes

Thanks all. You'd think with a device this expensive they would have some type of tracking or app that could show you the keys last location.

I lost one in the snow earlier this year.

I now lock the key in my trunk and unlock the car with my iPhone.

AndrewC1989 · 12-03-2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eDrive

So they do that with just the VIN number, correct?

Yeah I'd imagine they have every vin and key matched together in their system so they know whose key goes along with what transponder code.

///M TOWN · 12-03-2018, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

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Originally Posted by eDrive

So they do that with just the VIN number, correct?

Yeah I'd imagine they have every vin and key matched together in their system so they know whose key goes along with what transponder code.

Wow. That's ridiculous.

I will definitely continue to cover the VIN on my dash.

AndrewC1989 · 12-03-2018, 11:07 PM

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Wow. That's ridiculous.

I will definitely continue to cover the VIN on my dash.

You'd have to provide proof of ownership and many more personal details about yourself confirming your identity and all that before they'd just put in the order and give you a car key. It's not like anyone can just write your vin down, get your key made and steal your car. This has been thought of already and measures are in place to prevent that from happening. No need to be that paranoid.

///M TOWN · 12-03-2018, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

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Originally Posted by eDrive

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

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Originally Posted by eDrive

So they do that with just the VIN number, correct?

Yeah I'd imagine they have every vin and key matched together in their system so they know whose key goes along with what transponder code.

Wow. That's ridiculous.

I will definitely continue to cover the VIN on my dash.

You'd have to provide proof of ownership and many more personal details about you before they'd just put in the order and send you a new key. It's not like anyone can just write your vin down, get your key made and steal your car. No need to be that paranoid.

If no other key is needed to enter the new one into the system, it's hackable.

Good to know... Thanks!

AndrewC1989 · 12-03-2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eDrive

If no other key is needed to enter the new one into the system, it's hackable.

Good to know... Thanks!

There is absolutely no need for them to get their hands on your keys or VIN. They can literally just find a nice car outside of a coffee shop and wait for the owner to come out to unlock their car. Then they'll use a device that acts as a signal repeater/relay which clones the key signal. Then they can follow you to your home or office, write down where you live and come back while you're at work or sleeping and just hop right in without setting an alarm off or breaking a window. I've seen plenty of security footage of people having this happen to them.

https://www.kodgrabber.com/retransliator-udochka.php

pruettfan · 12-03-2018, 11:44 PM

380 isn't terrible actually. My wife lost the key fob for her Nissan Murano about 10 years ago , just a regular fob with a key no comfort entry and it was more than that to get the fob and key plus programming.

Yes they need the VIN and yes they make sure your not ordering a key fob for someone else's car.

There are RFID chips you can attach to a key fob if you like to make it easier to find. My guess is you will never lose one again. Every time I have made an expensive mistake my subconscious makes sure I don't make that mistake again.

///M TOWN · 12-04-2018, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pruettfan

380 isn't terrible actually. My wife lost the key fob for her Nissan Murano about 10 years ago , just a regular fob with a key no comfort entry and it was more than that to get the fob and key plus programming.

Yes they need the VIN and yes they make sure your not ordering a key fob for someone else's car.

There are RFID chips you can attach to a key fob if you like to make it easier to find. My guess is you will never lose one again. Every time I have made an expensive mistake my subconscious makes sure I don't make that mistake again.

My car is five floors down in a cement vault so they're not gonna get it but I understand your point.

GoneIn4Secs · 12-04-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eDrive

I lost one in the snow year year.

I now lock the key in my trunk and unlock the car with my phone.

Lets hope undont lose your phone in the snow , or run out of battery at the wrong time!

GoneIn4Secs · 12-04-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewc89

There is absolutely no need for them to get their hands on your keys or VIN. They can literally just find a nice car outside of a coffee shop and wait for the owner to come out to unlock their car. Then they'll use a device that acts as a signal repeater/relay which clones the key signal. Then they can follow you to your home or office, write down where you live and come back while you're at work or sleeping and just hop right in without setting an alarm off or breaking a window. I've seen plenty of security footage of people having this happen to them.

https://www.kodgrabber.com/retransliator-udochka.php

Whos gonna catch u in a m2?

I u see a car following you driving fast that should ring some alarm bells

The above only works on slow dopes

///M TOWN · 12-04-2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

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Originally Posted by eDrive

I lost one in the snow year year.

I now lock the key in my trunk and unlock the car with my phone.

Lets hope undont lose your phone in the snow , or run out of battery at the wrong time!

I can unlock my M2 with my Apple Watch if my iPhone is not around or lost or stolen.

F87_LCI · 12-04-2018, 06:03 PM

Am I the only one that received two keys with my car? Just use the other one, no?

///M TOWN · 12-04-2018, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Am I the only one that received two keys with my car? Just use the other one, no?

Maybe there are two drivers.

lucasmiller2015 · 12-05-2018, 01:43 AM

Too bad you're not in CA

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1389681

F87_LCI · 12-05-2018, 08:47 AM

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Maybe there are two drivers.

Only other person that could drive my car would be the wife...and lol, that's not happening.

She went to the same driving school as many women I know...the Drive by Feel Academy for Lady Drivers.

///M TOWN · 12-05-2018, 10:14 AM

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Maybe there are two drivers.

Only other person that could drive my car would be the wife...and lol, that's not happening.

She went to the same driving school as many women I know...the Drive by Feel Academy for Lady Drivers.

Same at my house.

Both keys are in my key box and the cover is on and locked accordingly.

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Rupes Major 1056 Rep 1,459 Posts Drives: F87 M2 (current), E90 330xi (w Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Thanks all. You'd think with a device this expensive they would have some type of tracking or app that could show you the keys last location.
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pruettfan Brigadier General 1622 Rep 3,402 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, LBB, DCT, Exec Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	380 isn't terrible actually. My wife lost the key fob for her Nissan Murano about 10 years ago , just a regular fob with a key no comfort entry and it was more than that to get the fob and key plus programming. Yes they need the VIN and yes they make sure your not ordering a key fob for someone else's car. There are RFID chips you can attach to a key fob if you like to make it easier to find. My guess is you will never lose one again. Every time I have made an expensive mistake my subconscious makes sure I don't make that mistake again.
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