[620turbo]

Originally Posted by Flange

Christ, give over.
You’re making us Brits look even more stupid than everyone thinks we are....

Speak for yourself.

It is just a bit of banter and light hearted debate.

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by GerardzM

It sure as hell better have a fair amount of extra torque. It has a whole second turbo lol

I do have a question for the people who did make the switch, that power difference can easily be eliminated with a simple tune. Was that out of the question for some?

I do surely hope no one made the switch because...not 'M' engine. Perhaps some care too much what others think? I guess thats what I'm trying to get at here.

completely tuned my OG M2 swapped out the little turbo and all lol. Even after all the changes I still wasn't satisfied and yeah limp mode for me too 3-4 times. N55 engine on the m2 isn't even close in comparison to the S55. but yeah I care what others think lol

[GoneIn4Secs]

Well its just annoying i see too often the smug s55 elitists talking about the m2 n55 as if its chopped liver and like it is a 235i engine

No, there have been improvements and the engine holds up quite well

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

completely tuned my OG M2 swapped out the little turbo and all lol. Even after all the changes I still wasn't satisfied and yeah limp mode for me too 3-4 times. N55 engine on the m2 isn't even close in comparison to the S55. but yeah I care what others think lol

Tuned n55 with a swapped turbo will outperform the s55 stock on m2c

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

You guys....

The OG M2 is fantastic car so is the M2C.

There is one word that can not be disputed in the comparison, torque. In stock form the M2 puts out 343 ft lb of torque while the M2C puts out 406 ft lb of torque which is a 63 ft lb increase. That is a huge increase and about the same as the M3/M4. This may not matter to a lot of people, that's fine. The M2/M2C is a high performance sports car where performance matters. Price, styling, sound, depreciation etc are all things to be considered in a purchase. So people should go out and find the deal that works for them. The elephant in the room is the extra 63ft lb of torque that the S55 pumps out which is a big deal. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just stating a fact.

Its does 369 lb/ft on overboost in stock form

[GerardzM]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Its does 369 lb/ft on overboost in stock form

It's ok pal. It seems we can't say anything for discussion sake without but "S55" being thrown around

It'll take us a few extra $, but an upgraded fuel pump and PS2 is all we need to keep up with the 2 snails.....without a crankhub upgrade


.....if you need that much power

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Tuned n55 with a swapped turbo will outperform the s55 stock on m2c

And a tuned S55 destroys a tuned N55. Clearly if I'm gonna tune to this extreme I wouldn't leave my M2C stock. Oh and btw after all that work I did on my OG M2 all I have to do is slap bm3 on the M2C and just like 500hp plus no fueling issues unlike the N55 had.
So your point is pointless

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

And a tuned S55 destroys a tuned N55. Clearly if I'm gonna tune to this extreme I wouldn't leave my M2C stock. Oh and btw after all that work I did on my OG M2 all I have to do is slap bm3 on the M2C and just like 500hp plus no fueling issues unlike the N55 had.
So your point is pointless

Then your point about the og m2 you tuned and swapped turbo doesnt make sense as that wouldve been making more power and torque than a m2c s55 ,


So unlessyou tuned yiur S55 as well, then your post was a bit misleading then wasnt it

Also m2 n55 fueling issues can be rectified with an inexpensive hpfp solution, so that no big deal for anybody who is going to track the car

[omasou]

I loved my stock N55 M2.

I really love my stock S55 M2C.

I love the stock N55 in my X4M40i (same as M2) only only thing missing is the DCT and exhaust.

Other than that I love both engines, stock.

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Then your point about the og m2 you tuned and swapped turbo doesnt make sense as that wouldve been making more power and torque than a m2c s55 ,


So unlessyou tuned yiur S55 as well, then your post was a bit misleading then wasnt it

Also m2 n55 fueling issues can be rectified with an inexpensive hpfp solution, so that no big deal for anybody who is going to track the car

Did you not read exactly what I said? Lol I tune all of my cars so like I said if I clearly modded the shit out of my OG M2 I would mod my M2C except I wouldn't nearly do what I did on my OG M2 because the S55 is that superior. BM3 on the S55 and done! All for only $500. So no I'm not misleading you're just not reading
Oh and btw upgrading hpfp wouldn't solve the fueling issue so please stop lying to yourself

[SpartanGA]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Did you not read exactly what I said? Lol I tune all of my cars so like I said if I clearly modded the shit out of my OG M2 I would mod my M2C except I wouldn't nearly do what I did on my OG M2 because the S55 is that superior. BM3 on the S55 and done! All for only $500. So no I'm not misleading you're just not reading
Oh and btw upgrading hpfp wouldn't solve the fueling issue so please stop lying to yourself

He is responding to your smug attitude and annoying emojis

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Did you not read exactly what I said? Lol I tune all of my cars so like I said if I clearly modded the shit out of my OG M2 I would mod my M2C except I wouldn't nearly do what I did on my OG M2 because the S55 is that superior. BM3 on the S55 and done! All for only $500. So no I'm not misleading you're just not reading
Oh and btw upgrading hpfp wouldn't solve the fueling issue so please stop lying to yourself

That's fine , but there's also a limit to how much power the f87 chassis can handle without spinning your wheels unnecessarily

The levels of hp that your talking about are not that great of an addition to the m2 platform, (unless its strictly about bragging at your local coffee metup with your starbucks latte in hand)

So for the m2 the n55 tuned to its reasonable ceiling , this is more than enough for USEABLE power the car can handle , everything else is just numbers on a page

They invented this word in english called "balance" for a reason...

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

That's fine , but there's also a limit to how much power the f87 chassis can handle without spinning your wheels unnecessarily

The levels of hp that your talking about are not that great of an addition to the m2 platform, (unless its strictly about bragging at your local coffee metup with your starbucks latte in hand)

So for the m2 the n55 tuned to its reasonable ceiling , this is more than enough for USEABLE power the car can handle , everything else is just numbers on a page

They invented this word in english called "balance" for a reason...

hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahaaa
You're so full of💩💩💩

[DanG]

Originally Posted by omasou

I loved my stock N55 M2.

I really love my stock S55 M2C.

I love the stock N55 in my X4M40i (same as M2) only only think missing is the DCT and exhaust.

Other than that I love both engines, stock.

Hate to tell you, but the X4M40i does not have an N55. It has a B58.

[kfscoll]

Originally Posted by DanG

Hate to tell you, but the X4M40i does not have an N55. It has a B58.

The F26 X4 M40i had the N55.

[MrOhnoez]

Originally Posted by kfscoll

The F26 X4 M40i had the N55.

I forgot that thing ever existed.
We never had one show up at our dealership.
It was announced them BOOM G chassis X4 unveiled.
Must be a rare animal like the X1 35i

[omasou]

Originally Posted by DanG

Hate to tell you, but the X4M40i does not have an N55. It has a B58.

I have a F26

[DanG]

Originally Posted by omasou

I have a F26

You have a rare X4. Congratulations.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

That's fine , but there's also a limit to how much power the f87 chassis can handle without spinning your wheels unnecessarily

The levels of hp that your talking about are not that great of an addition to the m2 platform, (unless its strictly about bragging at your local coffee metup with your starbucks latte in hand)

So for the m2 the n55 tuned to its reasonable ceiling , this is more than enough for USEABLE power the car can handle , everything else is just numbers on a page

They invented this word in english called "balance" for a reason...

Come on mate, you know you're now talking out of your arXXX, Oncoming M2CS has >450HP. There are more than a handful tuners who get their M2C >500 HP without any 'traction' problems(AC Schnitzer etc) (as if 'traction' problems would be an issue ask RUF testdriver Stefan Roser lol)
Those tuners don't change a lot to the Nm/torque. That's what they keep fairly stock or a bit higher. To keep it drivable.

On these hot days we have now, M2C easily can handle a 500HP tune traction wise. Easily. And it's depending on tyrechoice etc. too.


Cheers
Robin

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Come on mate, you know you're now talking out of your arXXX, Oncoming M2CS has >450HP. There are more than a handful tuners who get their M2C >500 HP without any 'traction' problems(AC Schnitzer etc) (as if 'traction' problems would be an issue ask RUF testdriver Stefan Roser lol)
Those tuners don't change a lot to the Nm/torque. That's what they keep fairly stock or a bit higher. To keep it drivable.

On these hot days we have now, M2C easily can handle a 500HP tune traction wise. Easily. And it's depending on tyrechoice etc. too.


Cheers
Robin

500hp is about the ceiling this platform csn handle, the ac schnitzer is at 500

M2cs was projected to be 446hp kast i saw

[WAY]

I am one of those who had a M2 (I’ve had 3 in fact) and switched to M2C. Given how familiar I am with them, I can honestly say that the newer car is 20-30% better across the board imho. The engine is the easy one to discuss because the numbers support it (and drive one and you’ll feel the difference from the moment you touch the accelerator). But it’s also about the additional stiffness both front and back ends of the car, giving you a car that has more immediacy on turn in and also a more responsive rear. If you can afford it, it’s a worthwhile change. But if you can’t afford or justify it, there is nothing wrong with the OG M2 at all. Btw, for those who said they would buy a M3 if they want a S55, I’ve had 3 F80/82 and frankly the M2 is a much better drivers car.

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Come on mate, you know you're now talking out of your arXXX, Oncoming M2CS has >450HP. There are more than a handful tuners who get their M2C >500 HP without any 'traction' problems(AC Schnitzer etc) (as if 'traction' problems would be an issue ask RUF testdriver Stefan Roser lol)
Those tuners don't change a lot to the Nm/torque. That's what they keep fairly stock or a bit higher. To keep it drivable.

On these hot days we have now, M2C easily can handle a 500HP tune traction wise. Easily. And it's depending on tyrechoice etc. too.


Cheers
Robin

Seriously he makes his argument with pure laughter and just can't get over the fact the OG is inferior to the M2C. Get over it these are facts which you cannot argue lol. We all still love the OG which is why most of us bought one initially but it's just not on the S55 level as expected.