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The way I look at it is this... If you only FDL coded the function, or VO coded by loading a modified FA in E-Sys (as opposed to loading the modified FA into the vehicle) then the worst that could happen is someone else, i.e. the service department at a dealer, would VO code the module as part of an update / repair etc., and you'd need to FDL / VO code again. If you were to modify the FA in the car itself, then future VO coding would look at the vehicle FA and code the function on for you, but it would also probably throw a flag that something is wrong about the fact that you've got a modified FA, particularly something that's modified because of DOT legal requirements in the US. I believe another way of looking at it is that the vehicle FA tells E-Sys what the default settings should be for each module. The car modules themselves couldn't care less what the FA is, they just care about the coding. Since you can load a modified FA into E-Sys without loading it to the vehicle, there is no need to load it to the vehicle, and no significant reason to do so either. The incredibly minor possible benefit gained by modifying the FA in the vehicle is outweighed by the potential issues it could cause. I personally VO coded every module back to factory before I took my car in for a service. I know that ISTA would probably through up errors that would be a pretty clear indication that someone had coded my car, but some of the other evidence wouldn't be there. It probably wasn't necessary, but it was 2 minutes work with a laptop, so why not! I might even clear errors with ISTA in future if I can spare the time to work out how to get that working...
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Ah, so when people are talking about "VO Coding" a car, they are not actually loading the modified FA/VO back to the car? They are just modifying the VO in E-sys, and then having it re-code the various ECUs "automagically," but are not altering the actual state of the car's embedded FA (if that is even something that e-sys is capable of doing)?
That was something that I completely misunderstood; I thought the whole point of doing a VO/FA coding was to write it back to the car, which would then (theoretically) keep your changes even if the dealership ran a full firmware update on it (which would then cause them to re-code all modules as well).
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Something like EBT or VLD can be applied with VO coding alone. But, in my opinion, it is better to leaves things factory as well as NGHB require additional FDL coding before actual functionality achieved. |
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It is VERY cool to see the high beams move around vehicles and dip on one side etc. What it doesn't appear to do though, is the central tunnel around cars in front, and potentially coming the other way. The most common need for the tunnel is for cars in front of you, and if their rear view mirror is dimming, you could just say 'F*** them', but that's not really the correct attitude. If there is an oncoming vehicle central to the headlight view, then the tunnel might be necessary there, and in that case, it could be downright dangerous. I'm not confident that the US LCI headlights have the required hardware, but there are others, like jonahk, who think there are no issues; see his post here: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...56559&page=172
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I have a Pre-Lci and did all my coding for VLD/NGHB within bimmercode.
VLD seems to be working properly. Still haven't gone out and tested NGHB, but from what I'm reading, people are saying it seems to be working just fine. Whether or not it's functioning safely is a different story all together. I'm going to attempt to test it out this weekend, weather permitting. I'm curious about the tunneling etc. |
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those with bi xenon who want this feature should probably just buy LCI headlights and code it rather than get Euro bi xenon headlight assembly. |
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Required parts for the LCI adaptive LEDs retrofit: LCI LED Adaptive Headlights (w / o Control Units) 63 11 7 469 783 LED AHL High - left 63 11 7 469 784 LED AHL High - right Control units 63 11 7 457 875 Control unit front light electronics (x2) 63 11 7 494 851 LED daytime running light module - left 63 11 7 494 852 LED daytime running light module - right 63 11 7 955 318 fan (x2) Total cost not including install and coding = $5157.95 |
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Speaking solely of LCI LED headlights at this point - the NAR headlights are different part numbers from ROW. It's not yet confirmed what exactly is different between them (other than the NAR lights have the amber sidemarker light that I suspect is missing entirely from the Euro/ROW assemblies).
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I shall look forward to experimenting with this in my soon-to-arrive M2C. I can tell you that I coded it into my soon-to-be-traded '16 M4 with Adaptive LED's and it worked perfectly and was an absolute must-have on the shitty English roads I drove when I was stationed in the UK.
What I can tell you is that the feature doesn't always work great in town as it can be confused by street lights and also by the reflections from some road signs. On dark two-lane roads (i.e. b-roads, state roads) the correct light tunneling and other beam shaping is QUITE OBVIOUS. I'll report back once I've had the chance to try it out. Since the correct patterning was so obvious I'm guessing that the folks in the "NGHB won't work for US models" camp are probably correct. I absolutely loved having the feature coded into my M4 though, so I hope this is not the case.
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